Experience of a big run of Lada grants MN. Weak places and basic flaws Lada Granta

Lada Grant is an excellent option of the budget sedan. The car front-wheel drive, it has an attractive appearance and a pretty decent complete set. The cost of the vehicle is low, so it is in demand in the market. Despite the modern technical characteristics, a new engine, an increased security system and a rich car package has drawbacks. They need to know and take into account about them, acquiring the model of Lada Grant.

As practice shows, any car has its weaknesses. Lada Granta did not exception. This brand of the car is not ideal and after a number of studies, its sores were identified, which in the end spoil the whole picture and cause frequent breakage. Therefore, they require special attention from the owner by the vehicle.

Weak places of Lada Grant:

  • Salon;
  • Headlights;
  • Electronics;
  • Thermostat;
  • Body;
  • Chassis;
  • Transmission;
  • Brake pads.

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Salon is a clearly weak side of the car. From the first minutes of the operation of the car you can see a number of its flaws. The first is associated with the handle responsible for adjusting the seat. It is fragile enough and breaks quickly. In addition, the transmission lever cover also leaves much to be desired. Low quality material and cracks. During operation constantly carries out from under the knob.

Almost immediately begins to flash the light bulb controlling the operation of airbags. It indicates their malfunction. Soon, facing the windows. They begin to eat and publish an unpleasant sound when lowering the glass.

The car has air conditioning, but the quality of its work is quite low. It does not help the task. In the afternoon in the heat of his work almost invisible. Especially if the car is worth it.

Headlights, Electronics, Thermostat

The vulnerable place is the rear headlights. They sweat quickly and poorly fixed. From the side of the lamps, large gaps, in which dust and dirt quickly accumulate. It will be necessary to conduct activities to remove it.

As for electronics, it has become a disadvantage on the first cars of this model. Quite often, the emblem on the harness of the wires occurs. In addition, the generator faults occur. The problem lies in its bearings and belt.

In principle, the cooling system has no complaints. Problems appear only with a thermostat and not all models. This sore is mainly characteristic of cars released until 2012.

The above disadvantages are insignificant and relatively harmless. If we talk about the body, then this is a serious minus of the vehicle. Paint on it quickly rubs. As a result, the body remains without a protective layer and begins to rust. This suggests that the installation of the car was incorrect. At the same time, plastic bumpers are not painted at all that many buyers do not really like.

Chassis, gearbox, brake pads

The chassis of the car has become its important disadvantage. The front racks are started to make an unpleasant sound. It manifests itself in the form of a knock on 6 thousand km of mileage. Over time, the brackets stretching traction located on the front suspension can burst.

The appearance of speaking in the checkpoint indicates a failure in the gearbox. This problem is often worried about the owners of the car. In addition, the cold one has a tight course. It does not tolerate low temperatures. In winter, the probability of freezing of the handle is great. You can solve this problem, it is enough to replace the oil in the checkpoint on the synthetics.

Brake pads that are equipped with Lada Grant, low quality. Over time, they make an unpleasant creak and squeal. In addition, brake discs quickly erase.

Not quite successfully enshrined in the car the cable of the handbrake. Specialists advise to start exploiting the vehicle extremely careful. It will take time in order to get used to this feature.

The main disadvantages of Lada Granta

Lada Granta car has pros and cons. The latter are quite important, as often the cause of the vehicle fails. The main drawbacks of Lada Grant are presented in the form:

  1. Rear drum brake;
  2. Weak motor;
  3. Lack of rear armrests and ceiling handles;
  4. One airbag, which is installed for the driver;
  5. Minimal set of options;
  6. Lack of engine temperature sensor;
  7. Creaking body;
  8. Not correct operation of the climate system.

Conclusion.

The list of flaws of Lada Grant has a large enough, but many of them can be avoided. For this, it is necessary to take care of the vehicle and maintain maintenance. Replacing the details released from standing on the analog will improve the quality of the car's work and reduce the likelihood of its repeated breakage.

P.S.: Dear grant owners, if you were noticed by systematic breakdowns of any nodes, aggregates or details of Lada Granta, please let me know in the comments below. We will lead to the statistics of weak points and disadvantages of cars of this model.

Weak places and basic flaws Lada Granta Was Last Modified: October 19, 2018 by Administrator.

The worst fears were justified: again breaking the belt, again repair the head of the cylinder block due to the meeting of the valves with pistons. The cause of the cliff began, apparently, the poor quality of the belt. The forces of our technical valve replaced replaced, and the car continued to serve as amended.

But on this "heart" diseases did not end. After the next long run, I decided to check the oil level: it turned out to be below the norm. Although shortly before it pulled the dipstick - and the oil column almost reached maximum. Began to understand the causes of the furnace. The first thing was checked by compression: it was low and the same in all cylinders is about 10 bar. With such indicators, you can delay the intrusion into the engine. But when the candles twisted, noted that the threaded parts are pretty grilled. And velvety nagar on candles unequivocally pointed out that the oil still enters the cylinders.

There is nowhere to go - once again removing the head of the block. The surface of the combustion chambers in the head is covered with a thick oil rode, and the piston of the third cylinder is completely washed with oil. Now it is clear where it goes.

The study of the surface of the cylinders has depressed even more. On the mirror are visible deep vertical risks throughout the circumference of the cylinder - just as frequent as on the nail file. The third and fourth cylinders were stronged stronger, in two others - small risks. But what could scratch the mirror so much? Probably, the cylinders penetrate small sand or dust. When and what could happen, it is incomprehensible. Options Two: Abrasive could get either when replacing candles or through the air intake channel.

The diameter of the cylinders measured the diameter. Wear in the third and fourth exceeded 0.08 mm - it is at the heights of the most comb. And in the depressions this indicator is even more significant. Obviously, you cannot get rided with low blood.

Without removing the cylinder block from the car, took out the pistons. Rings did not fix, but also are exhausted by risks. They went through the grooves sprinkled in the walls of the cylinder, and even nicely seal the cylinder, which was confirmed by the balanced taiga and compression. But it was obvious that further wear would quickly progress. The side surfaces of the pistons are also scratched - under the replacement.

Thus, our grant, which a little bit did not reach six-digit values \u200b\u200bon the odometer, waited. The unit was dismantled and taken to the old one's workshop - he took over all measuring and fitter work. And the cylinder block and the crankshaft cast on the mehowping into a specialized firm. A few days later we took the engine completely ready-to-use engine. He was not only returned to life, but also finalized. In particular, the pistons with ducts were installed - such are not found with valves when the timing belt is cut.

To this mileage, the box and the box. Her soaked the old disease of the vazovsky front-wheel drive models: an unpleasant crunch when the second transmission is turned on. We decided to give the time the box until the engine is removed - so as not to dismantle twice. It turned out that all the details affecting the inclusion of the second transmission are worn in the trash. Under the replacement, the coupling of the synchronizer of the first and second gear, as well as the driven gear and the synchronizer of the second transmission.

Cylinder block

It was:

  • abrasive wear of the working surfaces of cylinders by up to 0.08 mm
  • cylinder ellipsence up to 0.04 mm

Made:

  • valuation surface under the head of the cylinder block
  • the coaxiality of beds of the crankshaft
  • the cylinder block is tested for tightness of the cooling shirt and the presence of cracks
  • cylinders are crushed under the diameter of 82.5 mm with a flat-packed honing

Pistons and rings

It was:

  • piston skirts are worn, abrasive particles were introduced into the soft surface
  • axial backlash rings in the grooves of the piston reached 0.07 mm
  • piston rings are worn in height and diameter, and the work surface of the semi

Made:

  • the pistons of the repair size (+ 0.5 mm) are installed with recesses under the valves, which prevent the contact of the valves with the pistons with any mismatch of the shafts
  • new Piston Rings Repair Size Installed

At the same time installed a new clutch set. The refinement bearing was absolutely dry and creaked on all the frets. He also dug the petals of the basket, and the slave disk was worn out by more than two-thirds. By the way, when removing the box, a rare defect was discovered - turning the silent-blocks of stretching in the front suspension lever. Under the clue, it turned out that the gum broke away from the inner and outer sleeves.

Looking at the life path of grants, it can be concluded that the car developed and produced in Russia is still a kind of lottery. To take at least two main aggregates that demanded a large repair - most competitors they require interventions much later. At the same time, the suspension was quite consistent with our grants (we changed only two wheel bearing; by the way, in Lada cars, this is also a frequent malfunction) and steering. Electrical equipment sensors were unreliable - for example, I had to replace the sensors of the ABS and the clutch pedal.

Crankshaft

It was:

  • native shaft necks practically do not have traces of wear
  • running cakes are practically not worn, there are only light scratches

Made:

  • ceper crankshafts were polished within the admission to the installation of nominal liners

Crankshaft liners

It was:

  • on connecting rod liners there were small scratches

Made:

  • all inserts and support semirings are replaced by new, nominal size

The body gradually begins to rot. Corrosion appeared on the inner surface of the doors, and not in the zone of naphneuses, and above, under the seal. They went redhead the front wings and thresholds. For a modern car, even if you survived five Moscow winters, again it is too early. Salon, at first reminded a small children's rattle, now it sounds more and more like Maracas. It can be seen that a hundred thousand kilometers was given a car hardly.

The test program in our grant grant grant. We decided to part with her, and therefore we summarize the financial results.

Valves

It was:

  • wire of valve rods - up to 0.13 mm
  • oil reflective caps did not hold on the seats

Made:

  • the set of valves is replaced, tested with a check on a vacuum installation

Camshaft

No tangible wear, left without processing

Head block cylinder

It was:

  • valve sleeves had wear up to 0.1 mm

Made:

  • head tested for tightness and flatness
  • replaced all valve sleeves, went to new databases

The cost of a mileage kilometer has increased recently, and not only because of the repair of two main units, but also due to the continuous increase in fuel prices. Another expenditure article is not less important: how many cars lose in price, how much can you sell it?

The bestseller of the Russian market and the cheapest Lada (cost from 420 thousand rubles) The model of the first generation grant is issued since 2011 without significant changes (in the bodies of Sedan and Liftbek) and of course the car update has long since the renewal. In AvtoVAZ, this is understood, and in this 2018. The car was small restyling, and completely new generation will appear in 2021-2023. It is based on the Renault-Nissan platform B0 developed by the Renault-Nissan Alliance, subsequently subjected to serious upgrades. By the way, it will be applied in design and Logan in a new body.

Official photos of an updated grant in the body sedan

New Lada Grant 2018 - Restyling

In 2018, the update touched only the appearance of the model and the interior, the technical part will remain completely the same. Thanks to this, it is not worth a significant increase in the price of a new Lada Grant. Main changes - new before Vesta.

New Body options

It is noteworthy that the new grant after the update completely changed the facilities of the Kalina, which was removed from production. In the future, AvtoVAZ will have only one model of budget vehicles. In addition to traditional sedans and liftback, now the hatchback with a wagon and cross-universal has appeared in the ruler. No matter how difficult it is to guess, it will be practically copies of viburnum but with the Granta icon. As a result, the line of modifications will look like this:

  • liftbek
  • hatchback
  • universal
  • cross Universal

Specifications will remain almost unchanged: only the acceleration time due to the reconfigured transmissions of the MCPP and AMT will change. Plus, the "robot" will appear the creeping mode as on Vesta.


Purchased family, though without cross wagon


In the photo New Lada Grant 2018 FL (sedan)

Prices

Sedan and Liftbek rose, but versions passed from Kalina on the contrary, they fell due to simpler packages.

  • sedan: from 420 thousand rubles (+10 thousand)
  • liftbek: from 437 thousand rubles (+2 thousand)
  • hatchback: from 437 thousand rubles (-23.7 thousand)
  • universal: from 447 thousand rubles (-28.3 thousand)
  • cross Universal: the price is not yet called

Lada Grant Sedan1.6 (87 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) AMT51.6 (98 hp) AT4
Standard 419 900 rubles. - - -
Classic. 455 500 rubles. - - -
Classic Optima. 481 500 rubles. - 521 500 rubles. -
Comfort. 501 500 rubles. 516 500 rubles. 541 500 rubles. 581 500 rubles.
Luxe. 538 800 rubles. 553 800 rubles. 578 800 rub. 608 800 rub.
Luxe Prestige. - 572 800 rub. 597 800 rub. -

Lada Grant Liftbek1.6 (87 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) AMT51.6 (98 hp) AT4
Standard 436 900 rubles. - - -
Classic. 470 500 rubles. - - -
Classic Optima. 496 500 rubles. - 536 500 rub. -
Comfort. 516 500 rubles. 531 500 rubles. 556 500 rub. 596 500 rub.
Luxe. 553 800 rubles. 568 800 rub. 593 800 rub. 623 800 rub.
Luxe Prestige. - 587 800 rub. 612 800 rubles. -

Lada Grant Hatchback1.6 (87 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) AMT51.6 (98 hp) AT4
Standard 436 900 rubles. - - -
Classic. 470 500 rubles. - - -
Classic Optima. 496 500 rubles. - 536 500 rub. -
Comfort. 516 500 rubles. 531 500 rubles. 556 500 rub. 596 500 rub.
Luxe. 553 800 rubles. 568 800 rub. 593 800 rub. 623 800 rub.
Luxe Prestige. - 587 800 rub. 612 800 rubles. -

Lada Grant Universal1.6 (87 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) MT51.6 (106 hp) AMT51.6 (98 hp) AT4
Standard 446 900 rubles. - - -
Classic. 480 500 rub. - - -
Classic Optima. 506 500 rubles. - 546 500 rub. -
Comfort. 526 500 rubles. 541 500 rubles. 566 500 rub. 606 500 rub.
Luxe. 563 800 rub. 578 800 rub. 603 800 rub. 633 800 rub.
Luxe Prestige. - 597 800 rub. 622 800 rub. -


On the photo of Liftbek Lada Grant 2018


New hatchback ...


... and universal


New Universal Lada Grant Cross

Appearance

The first images with an updated sedan, which will receive the FL (Facelifting) console, appeared in social networks in early 2018. It was reported that the photo where the prototype was visible with the camouflage film applied to it were made in Togliatti on the territory of the Vazovsky "technical scientific center. At the end of July, AvtoVAZ completely declassified an updated family.

Analyzing the existing pictures is noticeable that the form of the trunk of the new sedan is slightly changed, and the front part of the body has become somewhat narrowed, in the style of Vesta. After the update, all Granta will also acquire the front panel from viburnum with minor changes.


It was one


Salon at the new grant - Kalinovsky with minor changes like a new instrument panel. He is of course oak, but it was better than it was

Release date and prices

Present Restyled Lada Granta 2018 should have already during Moscow Motor Show Already at the end of this summer, however, production has already begun on August 14.

The prices of the new Lada grant of 2018 in the body of Sedan and Liftbek will remain at the same level, the only question will be how to cost the hatchback and cross wagon, because Kalina, from which the models will come, was positioned slightly more expensive.

All photos

New generation

The "second" grant will use the upgraded Globak Access platform ( B0.), Developed by Renault. The same platform is planned to be used in the following generations of Logan.

It is interesting that the platform prepared for the new grants from Reno is quite universal - it will be engaged in the next generation of off-road LADA 4x4. This decision is not new and has already been used in Duster and Logan models.

All machines using one platform will go from the Togliatti conveyor. By 2021, Renault, which domestic AvtoVAZ belongs to, is planning to increase the volume of car production, in numerical expression bringing them to a million copies per year. All manufactured models will receive a unified platform.


No one knows how the new generation will look like, it is only fantasy designers

New Body and Prices

It is too early: the design is still in the development process, and the cost of course will be predicted to increase: gradually AvtoVAZ departs from the image of the manufacturer of budget vehicles (only look at the price of Vesta and X Reya), how far he goes - .

release date

According to one data, the following Granta will appear 2023, however, there is information that it can happen before - to 2021. Who will lead this project, is already known. The chief engineer was appointed Batischeva Vasily, who worked on the creation of the "first" generation, and the head of the project will be Bazhanova Olga, who was previously responsible for the prior.

Before submitting a grant in a new body, in 2018 the existing model expects a small facelifting (see above). At the same time, it may stop its existence of a model range of Kalina, and its modifications will be included in the Granta family.

History

A grant has been made since 2011 and is represented by modifications with the body of Liftbek, as well as a sedan. The model 106-, 98- or 87-strong engines with a working volume of 1.6 liters are equipped. There is also a sports modification of grants, where the same power unit forced to 114 "horses". Transmission is represented by "automatic" by 4 ranges or "mechanics" with 5 steps.

Lada Grant is currently available at a price of 399 thousand rubles.

21.09.2016

Lada Granta.) - This is a model that was developed in order to change the negative opinion of consumers about the products of the Russian auto industry. AvtoVAZ was not decided for a very long time to stop the production of his "legendary classics", which was produced since the USSR. However, time does not stand still, and a new model came to replace. Lada Grant was created on the same platform as Kalina, so they have a lot of similar technical aspects. Some units moved away from. But how reliable the car turned out and whether he could please the owners with good running qualities after 3 to 5 years of operation, now we will try to figure it out.

A little story.

In a heavy, for AvtoVAZ, 2008, in order to attract buyers, it was necessary to urgently create a new model, while the cost of developing new technical solutions should have been minimal. Therefore, it was decided to develop a new car on the platform of a previously produced Kalina. And in early 2009, the first sketches appeared on the basis of which it was decided to launch the project of Lada Grant. AvtoVAZ designers needed more than two years to create a new car. 2011 from the conveyor left the first copies of the car, and in the summer of 2012 it was on sale versions with an automatic transmission. In early 2013, a small restyling was held, as a result of which, a manual transmission received a new switching mechanism and synchronizers - it provided a clearer and easy access on the gear. In the same year, the production of the restyled version of the 16-valve engine 1.6 began, the capacity of which was increased from 98 to 106 horsepower.

Problem places in Lada Grant with mileage

Lada Grant was offered in three options. Equipment is "standard", "norm" and "luxury". Each of the equipment had its own engine type, with the same volume of 1.6 liters, but of different types and power. Poor equipment are equipped with 8 valve engines 80 and 90 hp, and the luxury version of the 16-valve engine 98 and 106 hp

The drive of the timing of all motors is driven by a belt, which is recommended to be changed at least once every 500,000 km. There have been cases when on the 8-valve motor, when the timing belt breaks, the valve remained integer, and it was possible to do without expensive repair, but such cases are single, therefore it is not worth tightening with the replacement of the belt. But small unpleasant surprises of Lada Grant has quite a lot, such as leaks of oils from under the head of cylinders and glands. Basically, the 8-valve motor is very reliable and time-tested, and if you are not so important than a dozen horses under the hood, it is better to prefer this engine. But a 16 valve motor more capricious, dear in service and repair.

Contrary to the opinion of the unreliability of Vazov engines, almost from the first days of operation, the reviews of the owners talk about the opposite. And if you rely on them, we can conclude that the motors with proper maintenance without repair serve up to 12,000,000 km, then the compression is slowly deteriorating, and the power, and to 170 - 220, the piston group will be replaced. Mascible caps are beginning to stick to 100,000 km, as a result, oil consumption is significantly increased.

Transmission

The main claims of the owners to the manual transmission, not so much to its reliability as the operational characteristics. Most often, the owners are numbered on a permanent bounce and screech during gear shift, and with increasing speed, the box starts to vibrate. Complements this set of creak when pressed on the clutch pedal, the reasons for this viper are somewhat - if the sound comes from the pedal itself, then most likely the reason in the fastening of the pedal fastening, and if from the motor side, it creaks the tip leash. This feature is treated with graphite lubricant.

The clutch serves not for a very long time, an average of 50,000 km, and if you have a clutch replacement, then it is better to prefer imported parts, as they are much more pleasant in operation, although they are more expensive. Much less often meet grants with automatic transmission of the Japanese manufacturer " Jatco ». As the operating experience has shown, the automatic transmission has an unpleasant feature. So in crude weather, the transmission control unit often fails, this is due to the fact that the block is under the left wing, and moisture from under the wheels falls on the chip. As a result, the machine may not start or the gearbox will not work correctly.

Challenge Quality Lada Grant

Lada Grant is not much different from previous cars released at AvtoVAZ factory. All the same is not a very reliable suspension, there was no less and negative reviews of the owners who complain about foreign sounds when driving do not grow, almost from the very beginning of operation. Stretching the suspension often helps to eliminate the reasons, but unfortunately, for a short time. In addition, the suspension is quite difficult to call comfortable.

Resource suspension:

  • Most often, the owners have to change the support bearings of the racks, it takes place every 10 - 20 thousand km, depending on the operating conditions.
  • Shock absorbers - up to 30000 km.
  • Screws - an average of 40,000 km.
  • The wheel bearings will serve 40 - 50 thousand km.
  • Silent blocks - 60000 km.

This model is equipped with an electric steering wheel, which is more reliable than that of the same viburnum, since the Korean aggregate of the company "Mango" is installed here. The first rack lift usually occurs around 40,000 km, but the resource of the steering service service directly depends on the operating conditions of the car. And if you are a neat driver, then change them every 30,000 km.

Salon

Lada Grant Salon is not the owner of the most exquisite design and high-quality materials, also even in the most expensive configuration of vibration and noise insulation. But this is the problem of all cars in this price segment, both Russian and European. In addition to squeaks in the cabin, the owners are not rarely faced with small trouble, such as a falling lighting lighting or not closed gluke. If we talk about the reliability of the electrician of this car, then the machines in basic equipment usually nothing happens. All disadvantages got cars in the maximum configuration, where there are a large number of electronic equipment.

Outcome:

Until recently, the manufacturer gave 3 years warranty or 50,000 km on his car, and from March 1, 2014, the warranty lines were increased to 5 years or 100,000 km of run. However, this warranty is limited to some components. Buying Lada Grant, you can count on the fact that up to 100,000 problems with the power units of this car are extremely rare. After the warranty, you need to be ready to repair the car. But the repair of the suspension will have to do quite often, pleases only that the details are inexpensive and there is always in stock in almost all stores.

If you are or were the owner of this car brand, please share your experience, indicating the strengths and weaknesses of the car. Perhaps it is your feedback that will help others correctly. .

Like many other cars "Lada Grant" has its weaknesses that are called "diseases". Some "diseases" will not make long wait and show themselves at the first time of operation, others will be given to know about themselves only with more or less large mileage. Part of the problems was recognized by the manufacturer and can be eliminated in the salons of official dealers, while the other part will have to be solved independently.

Approximately half of the cars sold after a small mileage disappeared their owners of the generator breakdown. Repair of the native detail will solve the problem only for a while, so it is worth installing a generator from "Kalina".

The second problem is a thermostat breakdown. As a result, the engine does not heat up above 70 degrees or at a temperature even at 100 degrees, the fan does not work. The solution is to replace the thermostat for analogue from VAZ 21082 or from "Kalina".

At idle turns in the cabin felt the vibration of the engine. Officially, this problem is not recognized, and therefore the output becomes stretching the fasteners.

Strongly pulled nozzles under the hood after a while begin to crack in the field of tightening of the clamp. Save the situation can weaken the clamps.

Howl in gearbox, tight handle stroke and its freezing in frosts One of the unpleasant surprises, which Grant presents to its owners. Bay in the box Synthetic oil 75W90, you just get rid of war from war, but solve the problem of freezing of the handle

Hard plastic in the cabin is far from the best design solution for a modern car, but with this, at least, it is possible to compete due to the lack of a violet. This is the other problem - the creak of the ceiling cladding, which is most often manifested at a negative air temperature. Also, the owners of Lada Granta complain about the crackle at the top of the windshield or rear window, the salon lantern and bad sound insulation. There is no official solution to the problem, so you have to either change the skin and improve noise insulation, or the louder to include music. The on-board computer does not always output data on instant fuel consumption, which is one of its main tasks. The lid of the glove box sometimes opens, if you close it up to the first loud click. Therefore, it must be closed to the second quiet click. More and very weak round arms are annoyed for adjusting the angle of inclination of the front armchairs. If possible, they cost less or do it more accurately.

Missing rear lights can be a consequence of the blockage of ventilation channels that the manufacturer recommends checking.

A poorly closed trunk is another problem inherent in the budget domestic sedan. The lock of the lock loop will eliminate this defect. It happens that when accessing the mounting compartment from the opening button, the trunk is running. In this case, you will have to make an extension from a 20-centimeter wire, a 10-centimeter shrink tube and four cells.