Which is better than 4 steps or 6? which option is preferable?
The automatic machine is more massive than the mechanics, it is definitely heavier.
4-speed automatic
The first foreign car Solaris and the first automatic machine in life. 4-stage. works with a slight delay. But how does it work. especially in Kickdown mode. To overtake, it is enough to press the gas to the floor and the machine drops the gear or even two down. If the 2nd gear is cut in, the salon is instantly filled with a roar, not that strong, but the sound is present, and it is beautiful. On the second car 3-4 seconds then kick and 3rd gear. And very well matched, it pulls well and the moment of 155 Newtons is available from 4000 rpm. Effective overclocking. third long gear and overtakes very well. the car in this gear continues to accelerate to 170 km / h! Then the cut-off at 6200. And the 4th gear is connected and there is sufficient traction on it. And the maximum speed of 180 declared is easily recruited. And if the weather is not windy and the road section is flat, then the car can be accelerated to 200 km h.
I want to give it credit that the gearbox is very well matched. Of course the box is heavier than the mechanics, but it is lighter than a 6-speed automatic. The transmission runs quietly and smoothly without any hint of vibration. Are there any disadvantages to this box? There is. Driving with a loaded trailer. Even a slight lift loads the engine in 4th gear and the gearbox pushes the third, but it is worth dropping the gas a little and the fourth is cut again, which in a moment goes back to the third. But it's easy to solve. Enough to include manual mode and third gear. The car will move with high engine speed, but it will do it confidently up to 170 km / h. At the same time, of course, the speed will be 6200. The same thing on the mountain serpentine, automatic mode revealed the shortcomings of long gears. It is hard for the motor and switching to the tightness occurs with a slight jerk. But again, when switching to manual mode, all this is eliminated. driving in a straight line with small inclines is a real pleasure.
Engine speed at 120 km / h does not exceed 3000. And further acceleration does not fill the cabin with a roar. Even at 180 km / h in the cabin, you can talk calmly without stress, only rubber is released in the noise. you can hear it well. Fuel consumption with this box ranges from 7.5 liters per hundred to 9.5 depending on driving style. But the ride is dynamic. the maximum consumption at a speed of 180 km h is 16.5 liters per hundred. If you have to storm a poorly passable area on the off-road. it is necessary to engage 1st gear in manual mode, it is indicated on the selector - L. The machine will not shift higher and there will be sufficient effort when overcoming the section and the speed up to 50 km h is quite enough. Well, of course, the revolutions will be high, but a difficult-to-pass section of snow or mud can be slipped through, of course, with the minds so that there is nothing to tear off. For this I made a set "Rural option" and "Nature" which help to secure in this matter and increase the cross-country ability of the car.
Here is an example of an operation with a modified suspension. Solaris 1.6 sedan Automatic transmission 4 tbsp.
Now I will tell you about the machine 6 tbsp. I'll be honest. It is more convenient than a poker of four mortars. More beautiful and sits comfortably in the hand. Moving forward and backward. No sectors. The manual mode is a very convenient lever to the left and the manual mode with the display of the gears on the on-board computer, in contrast to the 4-speed mortar, here all 6 gears are full and can be switched on in manual mode. In the 4th mortar, only 1-2-3 gears could be recorded. now about the operation of the machine. This box is heavier than 4 mortars. It takes up more space under the hood. and the left side of the machine is slightly lower than the right! Due to the greater mass of the box.
Another feature is a large vibration on the steering wheel. But this is possible due to the poor quality of the long drive shaft of the right wheel. Vibration is felt at a speed of 90 km / h and is well manifested at 110 km / h. I don’t know how Kago, but for me it is very noticeable and there is a difference with a 4-mortar where the steering wheel did not vibrate at all, unless there was imbalance in the wheels. if they accelerate smoothly, the gearbox switches imperceptibly, practically without jerking. But in order to drive stably in 6th gear, you need to keep the speed in the aisles of 100-110 km h at a lower speed and a small load, the fifth or even fourth gear is immediately pushed. At the same time, the revolutions do not increase much, but there is no traction as current. rolls and rolls while fuel consumption is 8.5 -9 liters. If you go dynamically. then the engine does not crawl out of a high turnover of 5 thousand is the norm. And this is very audible. The transmissions are frankly short and therefore they often get over. if you say the box is stupid, no, it is agile with a slight delay, but the gears are selected in such a way that you don't feel the pick up as such.
She switches but does not pull. Rather, the kata pulls by the tail, weak, sluggish acceleration. This is due to the fact that short gears do not allow the engine's potential to unfold in the maximum torque zone. Too little time has been allocated for this. Only there is a moment and then a cut-off and pick-up already from high speeds where the thrust chapel and further revolutions only reduce the torque. There is no catch from here. Sluggish. Roaring in spite of 6 gears and consumption I will say no less and even more than that of 4 mortars. Gasoline in the pipe! Power goes into emptiness. Instead of pulling, the engine dumps power to shift. and there are many of them. Going fast means the rpm will be 5000-6000 thousand, and this is completely invisible in the acceleration thrust.
The roar of the engine and the small steps of the box do not make this box a driver's box, and the settings of the strangled Euro 5 generally paralyze the maximum speed. 180 km / h on the machine at all 6 speed is not included in the kickdown! This means that the car can go to maximum speed only in 5th gear, while the engine speed is 5500! On the previous box, 4th gear and 4500 rpm is much lower and quieter. Although the box is 4 steps. But here there is an honest manual mode and when you turn it on, you can go in 6th gear with lower revs, but after 160 km / h the engine refuses to turn in 6th gear. Traction drops, the electronic collar strangles like a wall. You turn on the fifth. The car accelerates to 180 km / h and then practically does not accelerate in time. Having dispersed to 180 on the fifth, we forcibly turn on 6 and the car goes 180 for a while and then starts to lose traction, the speed drops and the gear in manual mode 6 does not switch the gas, the full engine stalls. Like a carburetor in which there is not enough gasoline.
The settings are stupid. Although the potential of the engine is there. Probably strangled in favor of the requirement of Euro 5. Well, she does not go and here she will be given a head start by a 4-speed transmission. About economy. I will say this if you drive on a flat road, a highway of 60-70 km h in calm weather, then you can set a record for efficiency. and it is undeniable. 4.6 liters per 100 kilometers! But I wonder how old a driver should be to move at such a speed, especially on the highway. If the speed is more than 80-90-100 and a slight pressure on the gas, then the flow rate is added to 7-8 liters. And if the rises, it easily passes for 12-14 liters per hundred. The engine is strangled, it changes gears below the rpm, and the fuel consumption increases. if you press down and accelerate the car, the consumption will increase even more. Average fuel consumption in summer is about 8.5 -9 liters per hundred. On a four-speed automatic 7-8.5 liters. Difference. If you go in economy mode, the 6th mortar will be more economical.
But is the 6-speed automatic really worse than its predecessor? Not certainly in that way. It is high-torque, therefore it is easier for him to drag a trailer. On the mountain serpentine, shifting is softer without jerking and the gears are selected correctly, acceleration at low speeds is sufficient for overtaking. On long descents, you can easily select the gear in manual mode and the box effectively brakes without resorting to the main brakes. it is very convenient on the downhill with tight turns and stiletto heels. gears are engaged clearly effectively slowing down. Movement in the mountains in manual mode is also very convenient. Short gears allow you to pick the right speed to maintain torque and have sufficient speed.
Summing up, I want to say. That a car with a 4-speed automatic is good and with a 6-speed automatic too. Each option has advantages and disadvantages.
The 4-speed gearbox is longer and tuned for maximum engine thrust. Hence, it is more playful, I would say capable of giving maximum acceleration for a long time. Especially in the range from 100 to 160 km / h. A quick set of speed. This makes it possible to almost lightning-fast overtaking if necessary. This box allows, in maximum 4th gear, to gain the maximum declared speed of 180 km / h and under certain conditions up to 200 km / h. The box is lighter than a 6-speed automatic transmission. The weight distribution on the wheels is correct.
Disadvantages of this box. Thoughtfulness with sharp acceleration. Especially noticeable when driving for a long time in economy mode, sharp acceleration leads to a stupor for a couple of seconds. thinks then shifts low gear and then accelerates. But it's worth entering Kickdown mode. Traction and acceleration are followed up to the highest possible speed. When the engine rpm exceeds 4.5 thousand, the thrust gradually decreases, but the engine does not poke into a concrete wall and does not choke as intensely as on a 6-stage mortar. The disadvantage of a 4-speed gearbox is that under load the switching is sharper and the load on the engine is greater.
In the mountains, 4 gears are not enough, and it is harder to drive in long gears with constantly changing road conditions. The manual mode helps, but the gear selection is not great and the difference does matter. therefore, it happens that the third one does not pull, or rather pulls but it is hard, and the second one does not have enough speed, and if you go faster, the third is high again, but it is a fast car that needs to be braked, and again the second and higher revs. Also with a trailer. But the good thing is that the 1.6 engine is high-torque and can handle the load.
Can this box be improved. You can in terms of response, adjust it for a faster response or add a sport mode. Adaptive mode slows down the gearshift speed too much.
Now consider a 6-speed gearbox.
If you do not go fast and do not resort to Kickdown, then efficiency is the strong point of this box, provided that you drive no more than 85 km h. The flow rate can be kept in the aisles of 5 - 5.5 liters per hundred on smooth asphalt. On a 4-speed automatic, the consumption is more 6 - 6.5 liters. If you are driving in the mountains or moving under a load and even with a trailer. at low speeds, this box shows its muscularity, without much effort selects the right gear. And the car rolls briskly. The range of maximum acceleration is 60 - 110 km / h. Further acceleration is more sluggish and after 160 acceleration is frankly slow and weak. it turns out a kind of cargo horse. The box works well, but it is frankly poorly configured. It is tuned to save the engine, but again, by loading the engine less, it spins it up much more than with 4 mortars. And high engine speed also wears it out.
A double-edged sword, and at the same time the consumption increases very much. Another minus the maximum speed is available only in 5th gear! What kind of economy can we talk about if the maximum speed is 180 km h 5500. Driving 120 km h at 2500 rpm on the sixth is good! But the flow rate of 9-9.5 is a lot! Cruising speed. just threw the gas pedal, the thrust drops instantly, as does the speed. a little added, the fifth is turned on already with a flow rate of 10-12 liters. A comfortable ride in the range of 110-130 km h comes out at a consumption of 8.5-9.5 liters per hundred and this is not enough.
With the same indicators, the consumption for 4 mortars is less by a liter and a half. And the main thing is that the 6 sti mortar does not want to go fast and frankly dulls at speed. 6 gears that add extra weight and resistance to movement. more gears, more rubbing surfaces. And moreover, the 6th gear is made to save fuel, in fact, it only reduces the engine speed at speeds up to 160 km h. It does not save because the engine is loaded and even strangled. An example of a horse pulling a cart uphill. she needs to keep pace and speed and instead the driver holds her. She is happy to pull it out, but the owner does not give a loss of strength and traction from here. less speed more forces are required to continue moving.
I think we can fix everything. But to adjust the brain so that there is a choice of the mode of movement. It is necessary to configure the firmware of the engine and box. That would be a full return mode. The toggle switch also snapped transmission. 1-3-5-6 would shift in that sequence without pinching in high gears. then the car will be able to reach maximum speed in 6th gear. And the acceleration thrust will be constant using the engine torque peak rather than the cutoff stubs. Adjust the engine and gearbox. And the car will be gold. In the meantime, we eat what we have! Good luck to everyone, read the news and my articles. I hope you were able to learn a lot of interesting things and compare your feelings.
It's not a secret for anyone now that the automatic transmission is gaining very great popularity in Russia. No matter how the mechanics argue with me, the growth every year is 5-10%, which is a lot, good or bad is the second question, but people get used to good things. However, whoever comes across an automatic transmission for the first time must decide for himself which transmission he will take - the old and archaic 4-speed (often these are really ancient models) or the modern one with 6 gears. At first glance, everything seems to be quite simple - modern, of course! However, not everything is so simple here. Why - read on, there will be a vote and a video at the end ...
In general, I am very often asked to express my opinion on this matter, and so I decided to write a short article. You know, not everything is as simple as it seems at first glance. And on the one hand, modern manufacturers are to blame, and on the other, those owners who are pouring incomprehensible information into their ears by dealers of official salons are to blame. However, let's not rush everything in order.
Automatic (automatic transmission) 4 speed
As it becomes clear, there are only four gears, such "boxes" were developed for a long time, I would even say - their dawn was 20 years ago. Now they are fading into the background and making room for new progressive automata.
However, some manufacturers (in particular Nissan, AvtoVAZ and others) that produce cars in Russia, install them in their cars. Is this good or bad? Is it worth buying a car with it, or does the hand still reach out to take a more technological unit? DO NOT HURRY, cock all the pros and cons.
Let's go straight away let's go over the negative :
- Yes they are outdated. Often, gear changes are slower and brooding
- Fuel consumption with such a "box" is really increased. Compared to mechanics, it happens up to 20 - 30%
- On the highway, there are limited possibilities, already at a speed of 120 - 130 km / h, the engine will work at its own limits, like the transmission. Turnovers will go off scale! And you won't be able to raise the gear, there are only 4 of them! Which leads to excessive consumption of fuel and a decrease in engine life.
- A large amount of oil, no one thought about it before, you need 8 - 10 liters, which means that we pour that much.
This is all the negative that comes to my mind like this. BUT! Despite him, these automatic transmissions, there are a lot of pluses ... Old automatic transmissions were made with the expectation of a large number of kilometers, simple and REAL maintenance - OWN HANDS.
What does it mean:
- It's just that their safety margin is much higher than that of their modern counterparts (this is just the design)
- They are serviced! That is, you can remove the pallet from them and climb inside without any difficulty.
- You can serve them yourself. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! Again, you do not need extra devices to unscrew the pallet, that is, an oil change can occur in almost every garage (if there is a pit)
- You can change the filter when changing the oil. This is again important
- It is easy to remove the valve body and check it, and the solenoids
- There is a separate cooling radiator
There are already many pluses. WHAT I WANT TO SAY THIS - friends are often old automatic transmissions, they really go for a long time and if you are timely and correct (with oil and filters). THAT RESOURCE IS REALLY HUGE! They can walk 250 - 350 - 400,000 kilometers. I have examples like this.
As for the city regime, they are enough for the eyes, do not believe that - they say 4 programs for the city are "NOT ICE" - this is not true.
Modern automatic transmission - 6 gears
They were developed much later, this is the modern generation. About 5 - 7 years ago, they were installed only on executive cars, but now there is literally every Solaris.
I will not stretch the article, let's go straight to positive aspects of this transmission :
- Virtually invisible switching, almost no jolts
- Dynamic acceleration, without blunts
- Fuel consumption is low, just like manual transmissions. This is a really big plus, because the efficiency can be up to 20 - 30%
- Less oil here
- On the highway, you can move at high speeds, much greater than 120 km / h as in old automatic transmissions. Moreover, the motor will not “roar like an animal”, the revs will be within 3000. This means that the consumption on the highway will be minimal
It seems like here it is an obvious choice - THIS IS THE SAME TECHNOLOGY, PROGRESS, SPEED in the end. BUT here friends are all sad with reliability and resource. Cons, and understandable for me these machines have a lot:
- Let's start with the fact that this machine is NOT MAINTENANCE, that is, it does not have a pallet like the old "machines", you cannot just disassemble it and see what is inside.
- Many dealers tell you that they are maintenance-free, in general. That is, there is no need to change the oil, it is there for the entire service life. JUST A NIGHTMARE
- If you do get to the oil change, then you cannot change the filter. And with high mileage, it really clogs, your automatic transmission starts to kick
- Again, just like that, you can't get to the valve body and solenoids
- YES, and in general, it will not work to serve the box itself (climb inside). IT IS VERY DIFFICULT! There is no pallet - you need to remove and "half" it, and this is to disassemble half of the car
- The radiator is combined with the engine radiator. Cooling is often not enough
MANUFACTURERS calculated everything very correctly - modern automatic transmissions MUST WALK 150,000 km, and then that's it! The warranty is over, the repair or better replacement of the entire car as a whole.
Damn, that's really funny to me myself - why can't you leave a pallet in the bottom - it's so simple. And the owners themselves could change the oil and immediately the filter. The resource would have grown significantly. But no, the money will come less. The sadness of the modern world!
It turns out, I buy a car with a 6-speed unit, without realizing it, you will have to change it at 150,000 km. Against this background, the old and supposedly archaic old men for 4 gears look VERY ATTRACTIVE. As you can see, everything is not so simple.
Automaton - arithmetic
Well, what hung up their nose - "six-speed"? Guys, I'll cheer you up a bit. I suggest you calculate - which is better in the end for the money.
Look, almost all old automatic transmissions have a consumption of about 12-14 liters in the city (of course, someone can generally "feel sick" and keep within 11 liters, but this is rare). Let's take an average of around 13 liters.
New "automatic machines" consume 8 - 9 liters in the city. Let it be about 9 liters. Do you understand what I mean? DIFFERENCE - 4 liters (or so).
From a thousand it will be 1600 rubles, and from 100,000 - 160,000 rubles.
Considering that the machine breaks down in 150,000 km, it will save 240,000 rubles. And the average cost of repairing a modern automatic transmission is about 60 - 100,000 rubles (depending on where you do it). YES and you can buy a contract thousand for 40-50.
Kia Rio 1.6 engine has 4 cylinders and a 16-valve timing mechanism with a chain drive. The engine power of the Kia Rio 1.6 is 123 hp. Structurally, the 1591 cm3 engine differs from its counterpart, the 1.4-liter Kia Rio engine, only by the increased piston stroke. That is, the crankshaft of the motors is different, although the pistons, valves, camshafts and other parts are the same.
Power unit Gamma 1.6 liters replaced the Alpha series motors in 2010. The design of outdated engines was based on a cast iron block, a 16-valve mechanism with hydraulic compensators and a belt in the drive. The new Kia Rio Gamma engines have an aluminum block, consisting of the block itself and a cast pastel for the crankshaft, see the photo below. The new Rio engine has no hydraulic compensators... Valve adjustment is usually carried out after 90,000 kilometers, or, if necessary, with increased noise, from under the valve cover. The valve adjustment procedure consists in replacing the tappets that are located between the valves and the camshafts. The process itself is not easy and expensive. The chain drive is very reliable if you keep an eye on the oil level. But the manufacturer recommends replacing the chain, tensioners and dampers after 180 thousand mileage. This is usually added to the replacement of sprockets, which is generally expensive.
Consider these facts when buying a Kio Rio with a high engine mileage. Excessive noises and knocks from under the hood should seriously alert you. After all, you, in which case, then sort out the engine. The Kia Rio engine is assembled exclusively in China at the Beijing Hyundai Motor Co. plant. Therefore, carefully choose even a new car, so that later you do not have to adjust the valves under warranty by replacing the pushers.
The big drawback of the almost all-aluminum 1.6-liter Kia Rio engine is oil consumption. If the zhor begins, do not be lazy to check the level more often and add oil if necessary. Oil starvation for this motor is fatal. Increased noise is usually a sign that the oil level is low. You can't drive that long.
If the motor feels unstable, the chain may be pulled out. To calm your soul, you can see if the marks on the crankshaft pulley and camshaft sprockets match. Photo further.
The timing marks of the Rio 1.6 engine in the photo are top dead center for the first cylinder (TDC). We decided to replace the timing chain ourselves, then this image will be very useful to you.
The rather good power of the 1.6-liter engine, which has the G4FC brand, is determined not only by the 16-valve overhead camshaft (DOHC) mechanism, but also by the presence of a variable valve timing system. True, the actuator of the system is only on the intake camshaft. Today, more efficient Gamma 1.6 engines have appeared, which have a phase change system on two shafts, plus direct fuel injection, but these engines are not supplied to Russia for the Kia Rio. Further more detailed characteristics of the 1.6 liter Rio engine.
Kia Rio 1.6 engine, fuel consumption, dynamics
- Working volume - 1591 cm3
- Number of cylinders / valves - 4/16
- Cylinder diameter - 77 mm
- Piston stroke - 85.4 mm
- Power h.p. - 123 at 6300 rpm
- Torque - 155 Nm at 4200 rpm
- Compression ratio - 11
- Timing drive - chain
- Maximum speed - 190 kilometers per hour (with automatic transmission 185 km / h)
- Acceleration to the first hundred - 10.3 seconds (with automatic transmission 11.2 seconds)
- Fuel consumption in the city - 7.6 liters (with automatic transmission 8.5 liters)
- Combined fuel consumption - 5.9 liters (with automatic transmission 7.2 liters)
- Fuel consumption on the highway - 4.9 liters (with automatic transmission 6.4 liters)
It is worth noting that in the new generation of Kia Rio 2015 with a 1.6 engine, only a 6-speed manual gearbox or a 6-band automatic is installed. With a smaller 1.4-liter power unit, an outdated 5-speed manual and a 4-band automatic are combined. Judging by the numerous customer reviews of the Kia Rio 1.6, the real fuel consumption is higher, especially in city mode.
The first lines in the sales ratings of Koreans are completely clear to me: they do it well, they serve them well, they raise prices humanely and gently, they don't shout about their successes, but explain it clearly. Of course, they keep quiet about failures, but everything secret becomes ...
In the Rio released in 2011, colleagues only clung to the suspension: they say, the rear springs and struts calibrations do not stand up to criticism and everything is very bad. In fact, there everything costs as much as it goes. If you want lordly manners - look for Golf on sale. In the Solaris / Rio family, I was much more confused by not the most successful gear ratios of the mechanics and the ancient wretched four-speed automatic machine.
In the first case, the box was sorely lacking one more - overdrive - transmission, because by 100 km / h the engine was twisting literally into a ringing and making movement along suburban highways acoustically uncomfortable. As for the machine gun, it is not just noisy, wasteful or inconvenient to drive with 4 steps nowadays, but somehow even ashamed - even the Uzbek Cobalt has a six-step.
And then our Korean friends worked on the mistakes. True, if Solaris received not only new technology, but also a new appearance, then they saved on the modernization of Rio - they limited themselves to six-speed mechanics for versions with a 1.6 engine and a new automatic transmission for the same engine. As in the case of a relative on the conveyor belt, the Rio with a 1.4 engine is still equipped with a five-speed mechanic and a four-band automatic. Let's start with transmissions.
It was difficult to get to the bottom of the gearshift mechanism of the Solaris / Rio MT before: the clarity of the gearshifts is unchanged from zero to runs under one hundred thousand kilometers. The new six-speed has become a little stiffer when shifting, the lever moves are longer than that of a 5-speed manual. Selectivity is slightly above average - without long-term skill, it is easier to simply get from sixth to fifth instead of third and from second to sixth instead of fourth.
The clutch mechanism is a reference: if it is customary for French cars to sin on the lack of information on the left pedal (and this is so), in Volkswagen cars - on a long clutch stroke (also so), then the Koreans managed to find the optimal balance. The moment of grasping and opening of the clutch discs is clearly felt, the stroke length is neither short nor long. The motor does not look that it is only 1.6, at idle it takes out with dignity, so you can get under way on one clutch, without especially gasping.
By the way, about "everything" and "1.6". Rio is enough for everyday travel and the base - 1.4-liter - engine. True, uphill and with a full load, the car can stand up, but not the point. But the 1.6-liter unit, and even paired with mechanics, endows the machine, I'm not afraid of the word, with a fighting temper. 123 forces per ton of weight is very, very good, not even for quick starts from a traffic light, but for quick movement between rows and confident overtaking on the track. So I safely recommend overpaying 76,000 for a version with a more powerful engine, if the routes of travel are not limited to the city.
Yes, and a box with six steps really works, because this very highest gear was not enough for the car. Acoustic comfort is improved at highway speeds. And this despite the fact that when driving on the sixth one can count on a certain amount of elasticity: a certain, albeit weightless, pickup when accelerating by 6 is present. So you will not lag behind the traffic.
The six-speed automatic also knows its business well. More details can be found in the updated Solaris - here the unit and the calibrations are the same: there is elasticity, there is efficiency, the switching is invisible and soft. The most important thing for the lazy and retirees!
As for the suspension ... Here is the Rio 500 worth a penny - and so much goes. All surcharges are for options and leather inserts on the dashboard, and the suspension for a budget car is digestible. There is still no balance between stiffness and elasticity - in an area with uneven bumps of different sizes, the Rio can count out all the little things a bit, hit loudly and early on the rebound after passing larger bumps. But the lateral swing has disappeared - the repeated recalibration of the rear suspension was beneficial. However, in comparison with the pre-reform version, the lateral rolls have become, in my opinion, deeper.
Unlike most of the Solaris on sale, the Rio are shod not in incomprehensible squalor, but in adequate Kumho rubber. Hence the great resistance to ruts and confident grip.
In terms of sound insulation, there is still one weak point - the wheel arches. The wind at legal speeds is not annoying, the engine compartment has been adequately insulated before. Anyway, I only want to find fault (like many others) with the location of the spokes on the steering wheel - not under the canonical grip, which makes the volume and station / track selection buttons virtually useless.
Otherwise, it is one of the most worthy cars on the market in principle: there is enough space in front and behind, the trunk for a couple of suitcases and a canister is adapted, the design did not have time to blur the eye in a couple of years, the price still does not bite, if you do not get carried away with navigation systems and keyless accesses. Rio, unlike its competitors, has not risen in price very much this year (+/- 6,000 rubles), so an adequate machine with a new box can be assembled within 630,000 rubles.
Updated: conclusions and performance characteristics
| Data are given for KIA Rio with 1.6 liter engine and manual / automatic transmission | |
|---|---|
| Engine | Gasoline with variable valve timing system |
| Number and arrangement of cylinders | 4 in a row |
| Working volume, cm³ | 1 591 |
| Max. power, h.p. | 123 |
| Max. torque, Nm | 155 |
| Drive unit | Front |
| Transmission | 6-speed manual / automatic |
| Front suspension | McPherson |
| Rear suspension | semi-dependent, spring |
| Front brakes | disk |
| Rear brakes | disk |
| Maximum speed, km / h | 190/185 |
| Acceleration time 0–100 km / h, s. | 10,3/11,2 |
| Dimensions, mm | |
| length | 4 120 |
| width | 1 700 |
| height | 1 470 |
| wheelbase | 2 570 |
| ground clearance | 160 |
| Curb weight, kg | 1 059 |
| Tires | 185/65 R15 or 195/55 R16 |
| Trunk volume, l | 389 |
| Fuel consumption, l / 100 km | |
| urban cycle | 8,5 |
| extra-urban cycle | 5,2 |
| mixed cycle | 6,4 |
| Fuel tank capacity, l | 43 |
Last year, Hyundai Solaris was updated, and now - the platform-based Kia Rio. What has changed in these massive and still popular typewriters - and how are they different from each other? For the answer to this question, we went to the Dmitrov auto-polygon in two ... No, in three sedans with 1600 cc engines. Because we took Solaris only with an “automatic”, and Rio - in two guises: with two and with three pedals.
Solaris LED taillights (pictured left) look more elegant
To whom did the facelift go more? At the back, Hyundai has changed more significantly - its "droplets" of LEDs at night look more expressive than Kia lamps. But from the front, I liked the new look of the Rio more: the lower part of the bumper has become European (read, Volkswagen) austere. And the LED strips here are strict horizontal lines, and on Solaris they are integrated into the sharp corners of the fog lights.
The red illumination of the buttons and displays in the Rio is also prettier to me than the blue eye-catching blue on the Solaris at night. In terms of ergonomics, the cars are very close, but the steering wheel of the Rio is more modern, "grip", and the buttons of the multimedia system are more pleasant to press.
It's a bit crowded in the back, even though both cars have gained popularity among taxi drivers, but the trunks are not bad: a teenage bike, suitcase, bag, child seat fit in ... And the inner handle is very handy.
Hyundai Solaris. While Hyundai offers a symmetrical front panel layout, in Kia the center console is slightly turned towards the driver.
Kia Rio. While Hyundai offers a symmetrical front panel layout, in Kia the center console is slightly turned towards the driver.
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And now the main intrigue: are there any differences in driving properties?
Hyundai Solaris. Rio in the top configuration has only a simple graphic parking sensors, and Solaris has a rear-view camera, the image from which is displayed on the in-salon mirror
On accelerating dynamics - none. The moderately high-torque 123-horsepower engine gets along well with the six-speed "automatic": smooth and at the same time energetic acceleration in both cars. Rio with "mechanics" is 50 kg lighter and gains 100 km / h 1.3 seconds faster. Fuel consumption? According to the results of our last year's measurements on the ARDC cycle, the difference did not exceed one and a half liters in favor of the "mechanics" (on average 11.3 and 10.0 l / 100 km), and now, after the "mixed" run in the city and near Moscow highways, onboard computers showed 8.3 l / 100 km on the "mechanical" Rio and 9.9 l / 100 km on the "automatic".
Hyundai Solaris. It is equally convenient to use "music" in both machines. But the backlight in the Rio is red, and the Hyundai is blue
Kia Rio. It is equally convenient to use "music" in both machines. But the backlight in the Rio is red, and the Hyundai is blue
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The Solaris braking distance at 100 km / h was two meters shorter than that of the Rio. Since for measurements we rearranged the wheels from one car to another, this can only be explained by the fact that on the Kia Rio with a mileage of 2000 km, the brake pads were not completely run in, and on the Solaris, with its 20,000 km on the odometer, they were completely worn down. The difference in mileage can also be attributed to differences in ground clearance: Solaris is 5 mm lower.
Hyundai Solaris. The Rio devices recessed into the wells set up for a sporty mood, and the pointer indicators of the coolant temperature and fuel level are better read than the Solaris LCD "columns"
Kia Rio. The Rio devices recessed into the wells set up for a sporty mood, and the pointer indicators of the coolant temperature and fuel level are better read than the Solaris LCD "columns"
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Chassis? No matter how hard we tried, we could not find the differences - neither on the "rearrangement", nor on the high-speed line. Moreover, both cars - or rather, all three - drive the way Hyundai Solaris drove with the last, third, suspension version three years ago. Harsh on small irregularities, but without swinging and breakdowns on the asphalt waves. Tight, collected. Even recklessly!
Even in a relatively simple modification, the Kia Rio is equipped with a pleasant key with a flip sting (pictured on the right). Well, in the top versions, both Hyundai and Kia (pictured on the left) offer solid chip keys
We drive the cars onto a lift and, having cleaned the shock absorbers from dirt, look at the markings. That's right: at the back on all three cars are Mando gas-filled shock absorbers numbered 55300-4L002. This is a sign of the last of the three versions of the Solaris suspension, which has been on the assembly line since February 2012. As well as springs with an increased diameter of the bar (11 mm versus the initial 10.5 mm).
Kia Rio. Moderately unpretentious comfortable seats can be adjusted in height with a handle-jack
However, the technical department of Kia still gave us a list of changes that the Rio underwent for the 2015 model year. Polyurethane tubes appeared on the front springs, the mounting bushings and anthers of the anti-roll bar struts were improved, the material of the support bearings of the front struts and the diameter of the front and rear wheel bearings changed. And all this was done with the aim of increasing durability - and not only on Rio, but, earlier, on Solaris. Although there are already few complaints about the reliability of Rio and Solaris, which my colleague Ilya Khlebushkin told about on the next page.
Hyundai Solaris. Tall passengers are cramped in the back, but there are no problems with the installation of child seats: the opening is large and the doors open at a sufficient angle
Hyundai Solaris. Trunks are almost the same: no additional amenities, but roomy
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The warranty conditions for both cars have not changed: it is still five years or 150 thousand kilometers. Of course, with a list of exceptions, which, for example, includes brake discs and drums, drive belts, a battery, gaskets of all types, stabilizer bushings - they are guaranteed for a year or 20 thousand kilometers. Prices are very close: for example, with a 1.6 engine and “automatic” Solaris costs from 644,400 rubles, and Kia Rio - from 649,900 rubles. However, individual options for Solaris are more available through bundled offers. And our cars in top-end configurations (such a Hyundai Solaris is more expensive, it costs 818,400 rubles, and Kia Rio - 809,900 rubles) are already equipped with those options that were not available before the facelift. These are LED rear lights, electric heated windshield, and steering wheel adjustment not only in height, but also in reach.
Measurements showed that Kia Rio and Hyundai Solaris weigh the same in similar trim levels. And the version of Rio with "automatic" is 48 kg heavier than the car with "mechanics"
What to choose? I and Alexander Nikolaevich Divakov prefer Rio more, and one of my friends immediately gave preference to Solaris: only because she likes the blue backlight on the front panel more than the red one. A matter of taste!
Dimensions, unladen weight and axle weight distribution
* Data in brackets - for a car with a manual transmission
Manufacturers' data are highlighted in red, Autoreview measurements are highlighted in black
When performing the swap maneuver, both Solaris and Rio exhibit equally reliable behavior. With an increase in speed, rear axle skids increase, but they are easily extinguished by the stabilization system or, if it is disabled, by the driver, and the maximum speed of the maneuver without the help of electronics decreased by only 3 km / h. When performing a "swap" with braking, both vehicles follow the trajectory very accurately, with good deceleration. Although in both the tester noted slight release of the brakes, which led to an increase in stopping distance. Moreover, the Kia Rio slows down a little worse on the same tires, which can only be explained by the different state of the brake pads and discs
| Some measurement results Autoreview | ||||
| Options | Cars | |||
| Hyundai Solaris AT | Kia Rio AT | Kia rio mt | ||
| Maximum speed, km / h | 189,6 | 188,5 | 193,5 | |
| Acceleration time, s | 0-50 km / h | 4,0 | 4,1 | 3,6 |
| 0-100 km / h | 11,4 | 11,5 | 10,2 | |
| 0-150 km / h | 27,5 | 27,5 | 23,8 | |
| on the way 400 m | 18,0 | 18,1 | 17,3 | |
| on the way 1000 m | 33,0 | 33,1 | 31,7 | |
| 60-100 km / h (III) | 7,0 | 7,2 | 6,7 | |
| 60-100 km / h (IV) | 10,0 | 10,3 | 9,7 | |
| 80-120 km / h (V) | 17,1 | 18,5 | 14,0 | |
| 60-100 km / h (VI) | 30,2 | 33,1 | 20,5 | |
| 60-100 km / h (D) | 6,8 | 7,0 | — | |
| 80-120 km / h (D) | 8,3 | 8,6 | — | |
| Runout, m | from 50 km / h | 566 | 572 | 570 |
| 130-80 km / h | 959 | 941 | 947 | |
| 160-80 km / h | 1450 | 1420 | 1425 | |
| Braking from a speed of 100 km / h | path, m | 39,5 | 41,5 | 40,2 |
| deceleration, m / s2 | 9,8 | 9,3 | 9,6 | |
| Braking from a speed of 150 km / h | path, m | 92,2 | 93,4 | 92,6 |
| deceleration, m / s2 | 9,4 | 9,3 | 9,4 | |
| Accuracy of speedometer readings | ||||||||
| Cars | Speedometer readings, km / h | |||||||
| 40 | 60 | 80 | 100 | 120 | 140 | 160 | 180 | |
| True speed, km / h | ||||||||
| Hyundai Solaris AT | 38 | 57 | 77 | 96 | 116 | 136 | 156 | 177 |
| Kia Rio AT | 40 | 60 | 81 | 102 | 123 | 143 | 164 | 185 |
| Kia rio mt | 39 | 60 | 80 | 101 | 122 | 143 | 164 | 184 |
Equipment availability
We have indicated the minimum price for which you can now buy a Rio or Solaris with one or another equipment. Many options are available only in top-end trim levels and come in a package. Hyundai offers somewhat more favorable conditions: for example, Solaris 1.6 with "mechanics" can be equipped with a heated windshield, a stabilization system and side airbags and pay 708,400 rubles for everything, and if you want a Kia Rio with the same options, pay for 100 thousand more, although in the appendage you will also receive an "automatic"
| Passport data | |||
| Cars | Hyundai solaris | Kia rio | |
| Body type | four-door sedan | four-door sedan | |
| Number of places | 5 | 5 | |
| Trunk volume, l | 470 | 500 | |
| Curb weight, kg | 1151 | 1151 (1129)* | |
| Full weight, kg | 1565 | 1565 | |
| Engine | gasoline, with multipoint injection | ||
| Location | front, transverse | front, transverse | |
| Number and arrangement of cylinders | 4, in a row | 4, in a row | |
| Working volume, cm3 | 1591 | 1591 | |
| Cylinder diameter / piston stroke, mm | 77,0/85,4 | 77,0/85,4 | |
| Compression ratio | 10,5:1 | 10,5:1 | |
| Number of valves | 16 | 16 | |
| Max. power, hp / kW / rpm | 123/90/6300 | 123/90/6300 | |
| Max. torque, Nm / rpm | 155/4200 | 155/4200 | |
| Transmission | automatic, 6-speed |
automatic, 6-speed (mechanical, 6-speed) |
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| Gear ratios | I | 4,40 | 4,40 (3,62) |
| II | 2,73 | 2,73 (1,96) | |
| III | 1,83 | 1,83 (1,37) | |
| IV | 1,39 | 1,39 (1,04) | |
| V | 1,00 | 1,00 (0,84) | |
| VI | 0,78 | 0,78 (0,70) | |
| reverse | 3,44 | 3,44 (3,70) | |
| main gear | 3,38 | 3,38 (4,27) | |
| Drive unit | front | front | |
| Front suspension | independent, spring, McPherson |
independent, spring, McPherson |
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| Rear suspension | semi-dependent, spring | semi-dependent, spring | |
| Front brakes | disc, ventilated | disc, ventilated | |
| Rear brakes | disk | disk | |
| Tires | 185/65 R15 | 185/65 R15 | |
| Maximum speed, km / h | 185 | 185 (190) | |
| Acceleration time 0-100 km / h, s | 11,3 | 11,2 (10,3) | |
| Fuel consumption, l / 100 km | urban cycle | 8,8 | 8,5 (7,6) |
| extra-urban cycle | 5,2 | 5,2 (4,9) | |
| mixed cycle | 6,5 | 6,4 (5,9) | |
| CO 2 emissions, g / km | mixed cycle | 151 | 149 (137) |
| Fuel tank capacity, l | 43 | 43 | |
| Fuel | aI-92 gasoline | aI-92 gasoline | |
| * In brackets - data for the version with a manual transmission | |||
Are they reliable?
Ilya KHLEBUSHKIN
The rear suspension was the Achilles heel of the Korean twins (AR # 8, 9 and 11, 2011) - since the end of 2011, the characteristics of the springs and shock absorbers have changed three times! But the Mando rear shock absorbers withstand their 70-80 thousand kilometers, and the front shock absorbers get tired a little later, closer to 100 thousand kilometers. The rack and pinion steering gear and the power steering pump were often replaced by dealers under warranty. There are no problems with the six-speed manual transmission M6CF1, which appeared in mid-2014 in cars with a 1.6 engine (it differs from the unit on the older relatives of the Hyundai i30 / Kia cee "d by different gear ratios). But the five-speed" mechanics "M5CF1 has a special there is no safety margin: we ourselves were convinced of this during accelerated life tests, replacing gears, synchronizer couplings and a third gear locking ring with the remnants of an outlandish plastic coating on the friction surface. So after a run of 120 thousand kilometers, the box can start to screech and abut when And before, after 100-120 thousand kilometers, it is usually required to update the clutch disc and release bearing.
The Korean automatic four-speed gearbox A4CF1, based on the Mitsubishi F4A42 unit of the 1997 model, does not shine with agility, but it has long forgotten about childhood illnesses and can withstand a mileage of 200 thousand kilometers without any special adventures. The main thing is to change the original Diamond SP III transmission at least once every 70 thousand kilometers: otherwise, problems with the valve body, solenoids and the pump will inevitably arise. The six-speed A6GF1 gearbox, which was added in 2014, is quicker, but its valve body is much more sensitive to both overheating and oil purity, and in addition, you can expect trouble with the clutches and the torque converter lockup clutch.
"All-aluminum" motors of the Gamma series - G4FA with a volume of 1.4 liters (37% of cars on the market) and G4FC with a volume of 1.6 liters (63% of cars) - are similar in design and reliability: both are capable of withstanding 200– 250 thousand kilometers. But after 100-120 thousand, the engines can noticeably weaken: due to the stretched chain, the CVVT valve timing control system does not work correctly. It is more expensive to pull with the replacement of a worn chain: it can jump over the teeth of the sprockets - and the valves will meet with the pistons (the same can happen due to the fault of an unreliable tensioner). Once every two to three years, it will be necessary to clean the radiator block of dirt and fluff, and after 40-60 thousand kilometers - to flush the throttle valve assembly. Another risk group is an expensive converter, so you need to monitor the health of the ignition system and avoid experiments with fuel quality.
And watch out for leaks: oil does not mind leaving the engines through the rear crankshaft oil seal, antifreeze through the cylinder head gasket. A "misted" timing case or valve cover is quite common: instead of the usual gaskets, a sealant that dries out over time is used here.
According to statistics, buyers of Rio and Solaris are twice as likely to choose the 1.6 engine (123 hp) than the base 1.4 engine (107 hp). It is understandable: the surcharge is 25-30 thousand rubles, and this price also includes a more modern gearbox (6-speed "mechanics" or "automatic" versus a five-speed "mechanics" or four-speed "automatic")
