If you judge cynical - only for money, - the wagon puts Cross on the blades with an advantage of 116 thousand. "Off-road" option does not take cheaper 755,900 rubles, while SW is available for 639,900 - only 32 thousand more expensive similar to the filling of the sedan. But there is a nuance: "Crosses" are not yet released in affordable equipment, the price list starts immediately with the highest performance LUXE. And the SW begins with Comfort, where there are no side airbags, fog, double floor trunk, heating of windshield, light and rain sensors, climate control ... On the other hand, all these things tempered by "Zhiguli" man will safely attribute to excesses. And for a comfortable life in "Comfort", even on a background of foreign cars there is a lot: a pair of pillows, a system of stabilization with ABS and anti-slip, steering wheel adjustment by tilt and departure, central locking with folding key, heated seats, electric windows in a circle, air conditioning, music and Even cruise control. Therefore, the first point is sent to a more affordable, but non-SW.
Vesta SW.
Vesta SW Cross
When the sedan is launched, AvtoVAZ gave the right of the first night on sales of "Vesti" the best dealers. In the case of universities from this practice, refused. Pre-ordered will be issued in any branded salon, "live" cars are expected by the end of OctoberTrunk: 3: 2
The difference in the score is preserved because cargo compartments are completely identical. But for trunkings both "Vesti" receive two points. I barely restrained to add three. After all, nothing like the domestic auto industry has not yet done. Finally, people thought about himself! Such a competent organization of space even Skoda will envy with its SIMPLY CLEVER solutions. In both "freaks" are full of hooks, grids, there is a socket, backlight, secret compartment in the wall on the right, the tray for rags and other little things. And most importantly - Russian know-how: a special pocket for five-liter bottles with water or canisters with a wash. They are invited to put in a comfortable niche along the left side and fix the elastic strap. Although the eggs are in the trunk: with such fixation, nothing to fly and break about the wall will not. The problem is one - the place is not enough. The unification of the floor with the sedan did not allow to squeeze more than 480 liters from the station wagon (like a four-door). And this is taking into account the "two-story" underground: a organizer around a 15-inch spare wheel and removable trays above it. Even in the five-door "Westers" there is no hatch for long-term, and the rear sofa rear sofa, divided in the proportion of 40:60, cannot be folded into the horizon.
The fifth door opens with a button, in the future there must be a servo. Maximum volume with folded seats - 825 litersPatency: 3: 3
Vesta SW is not a puzoterka: 178 mm under steel protection of the power unit - a normal option for Russia. And Cross is still universal. Under even belly, he has 203 mm. Vazovtsov did not embellish, the body is real backward on a new height - an impartial roulette confirmed. For comparison, popular crossovers seem to be Kia Sportage, Volkswagen Tiguan or Ford Kuga Real clearance of about 180 mm. That's just a complete drive in the "Cross" will not be. And coupled with Pirelli Cinturato P7 205/60 R17 road tires (at SW - Matador Elite 3 195/55 R16) are the main restrictions on the passability. But there is still enough clutch and geometry, Cross crawls forward. What we were convinced by ourselves when the navigation navigation took us on a strongly crossed primer, where, as a colleague remembered, the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport SUV test recently passed. The raised "Vesta" slipped down the slope, jumped over the boulders, took the mudhead and stumbled only on a wet rise, exist with ruts. On the back of the cross, the Cross had to push the slide slightly, but the main thing - they got out. Exam on Off-Round went, get a score in the piggy bank.
With the exception of the front bumper, the plastic body kit "Cross" is natural, unpainted. The angles of the entry-Congress are about 1.5 degrees more than the usual SW, even despite the elongated bodies. From electronic helpers - imitation of interstole blocking and start assistant on the rise
Engines: 2: 2
Perhaps the motors are the weakest place of new universal, fined on one score of both cars. We do not know how the SW and Cross with the basic 1.6-liter 106-strong "four" VAZ-21129 behave - they were not brought to the test drive, but the "Vesti" with the flagship engine, to put it mildly, did not please. The new VAZ-21179 aggregate seems to be the volume of solid - 1.8 liters, and the power worthy - 122 hp, the torque due to the phase inspector on the inlet is not bad - 170 N ∙ m. But the bad thing all this works only on the plain. And when we were deepened from the Sochi coast to the mountains, "Vesta" became completely sluggish: the motor is empty, upstairs sad, the middle is so-so - what are the revolutions do not hold, sometimes the car does not want to speed up on the rises, demanded to go to the transfer down . By capping the crawl doubly, it is necessary to play jewelry with clutch. As a result - consumption under 12-13 liters of 92th gasoline. Below is 9 liters, the flightcomputer did not show any time for all time. But the universals are only 50-70 kg heavier sedan ... By the way, SW on VAZ logic is Sport Wagon. Looks like an evil irony. Well, though detonation engine 1.8 no longer suffers, other childhood diseases are also sort of cured, but in the morning the cold motor still upset a couple of times unexpected traction failures.
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Vesta wagon - a quiet car. Tires, motor, the wind is heard about the same, noise on the ears does not prescribe. And the "crickets" in the hard plastic of the cabin do not even be vested even on the primer. I want to believe, the details do not break over time and the front suspension will not stand up on the sedans of the first issuesGearboxes: 2: 2
The main "transmission" beat of the five-door "West" is the lack of a normal automatic box. True, the vasents swear that buyers have learned to handle the Share Robot AMT (2182) and there are no complaints about it. But it seems to us, so they say only those people who have never traveled to the car with a good ACP. The skills of the five-speed robot "Lada" best illustrate the numbers of overclocking to "hundreds": automated universal 1.8 for it is required indecent time - 12.9-13.3 s, while with the mechanics of numbers much more optimistic - 10.9- 11.2 s. Hand boxes, by the way, are different: "Vestes" 1.6 is the domestic transmission 2180, and modifications from 1.8 - French JR5. And I liked it: switched clear enough, easily, not buzzing and does not work. But in general, the points here are not charged for that, the bill in the battle remains the same.
Vesta SW.
Vesta SW Cross
Between the front seats, an armrest appeared with a boxing (useful, but interferes fastening and switching to switch), heating seats are now a three-stage, glove box cover with microlift, and the heating of the windshield is switched on with a separate button. Soon these things will go to the sedanHandling: 2: 3
Universal SW engineers identified special rear springs in order to adapt the chassis to another rigidity and a mass of a five-door body. Therefore, the behavior on the road this version resembles a sedan. The stele is also tightly, with an excitement checked into a turn to the dumping of the gas and pleases the live response to the steering turns. Never before the Russian universals did not go so "tasty." But the high Cross turned out to be even more interesting! The vazovs were elected to increase the clearance of difficult, but the right way - completely replaced the springs and shock absorbers, expanded a stake by 14 mm, having spent a lot of time on the adjustment of driving qualities. As a result, the "off-road" option did not become more roll, retained the acceptable smoothness of the course on low-profile 17-inch wheels, and even won in handling: the "cross" the steering wheel, a more effort on it, on the arc in turning the car costs more stable. Only edging of the dial of instruments in red in vain painted - the numbers are poorly read. But still Cross deservedly breaks forward on the points. Little remark: On the heels serpentine, the front tires "Cross" rubbed about the supporting cups of the pendant springs. We hope that this is a single problem of our car, as well as jammed decorative engine cover from fixtures ...
When the lack of competitors is beneficial
For a long time of expectations and regular questions to dealers accompanied me a few months after the public was represented by the body wagon from Lada Vesta - Sport Wagon. Despite the fact that the official presentation of the SW and SW Cross in the Dealer Center "Lada Center Kirov" will be held on Karl Marx, 4 Only on November 4, ride a fundamentally new car and understand, cost these months waiting or not, I happened now.
In the queue, I was not the first and in order to get a wagon in Cross version for a couple of hours, I had to come hardly to open the car dealership. The queue literally is divided into minutes. Because of what such an excitement?
In fact, Vesta SW, whether "Cross" version or ordinary, has several important, in my opinion, features. As I traveled directly to Cross, I will tell about it.
What's new?
Body lines are symphony from aesthetic buzz and moral satisfaction. If the body of the sedan looks very good, the wagon is something that Vesta lacked initially. Despite the fact that in length the car remained almost the former, it looks more complete. All increasing parameters, by the way, is embedded in plastic parts, enveloping SW Cross around the perimeter. Matte protection adds a brutality machine and well harmonizes with toned glazing and "haring roof". Oh other raised AvtoVAZ models have plastic protection as a distinctive feature and, you must admit, it does not always fit into the architecture, take the same Kalina. On the "West", the plastic ornament looks no worse than Skoda Octavia Scout or Audi Allroad. True, the latter exist in another price range and have a full drive.
The main differences of the SW Cross and SW versions are two: ground clearance and body kit. If everything is clear with the body kit, then the clearance causes it to really impress. For comparison, the road clearance of Nissan Qashqai starts from 185 millimeters, while Vesta SW Cross is 203 millimeters. Of course, there are crossovers and higher, such as X-Trail or Outlander, but these are crossovers. There and the category and the scope and scope of use are different, as well as the price range that has passed over 1.5 million rubles. Vesta in the most "fatty" configuration will not pass for 900 thousand. The nominal value of the Lada Vesta SW Cross Luxe Prestige dealer is 847,900 rubles. And this is for a minute, engine 1.8 liters (122 horses) 5-speed AMT and an abundance of electronic assistants and options.
Stop talking! Go!
And indeed, you can look at Cross for a long time, but appearance is only one of the aspects, and how the car rides and, that is not unavailable, where it can drive, I had to find out already on the trip. On the roads of SW Cross, it was not possible to drive any sense in principle, so I accepted a volitional decision, to leave somewhere near, but at the same time, immerse the car into a serious trial for it. The main thing is not to forget that on Lada only front-wheel drive, so it is better to do deep into the dirt. The rest is please.
I, in a happy chance, got to the test Luxe / Multimedia grade. This is almost the most complete assembly in the unit, equipped with a manual gearbox and a capacity with a capacity of 122 horsepower.
Despite the fact that during the test in the car there were 3 people, the dynamics even on winter studded rubber on a slightly subporentive asphalt impressed. I will not say that the machine on the bottoms pulls as a locomotive, but in the average range of 170 nm there is enough, and even sudden accelerations, when you make overtaking, and there is already ahead of the dump truck, Vest is easily given. As the familiar 16 valve 1.6 behave, many are represented, and from 1.8 I met the first time only the second time, and this meeting was pleasant.
Vest in the body of Sedan Many praised for handling and maneuverability. On the version of Cross, the story is even more interesting. Unlike SW, there are other suspension settings and the machine behaves even more interesting and on a smooth asphalt and where they did not have time to update, and on the ground roads. I happened to experience the car in all elements. Even a couple of brodes managed to overcome, but later.
Many who have ever traveled to Lada, probably remember those feeling when they accelerate to 100-120 kilometers per hour, drive the wheel with both hands and peasantly peeling, hoping to keep the car on overtaking and return to their lane. Vesta Cross - Clearance itself even at high speed. Making a couple of overtaking on the highway, on the way to a new bridge, even the thoughts did not grow to me that the car would behave on the road somehow not adequately. 17-inch discs, wide 205 tires keep the car confident. It does not float during rebuilding and does not play in the body with small irregularities and cracks. Suspension let slightly and clamped, but does not pass into the salon road flashes and, while, it keeps the car in the turn. Even the "Gazka" can be submitted for the severity of sensations.
Honestly, going from the track on the first "clover" I thought that the joy of my end. On the plot from the junction towards the big mountain, there were better asphalt, but it is also for Vesta an abundance of deep holes did not become something tragic to make me slow down the speed and slowly, turning out from one pit to another, crawled on the broken asphalt. No matter how so, I also worked out. Due to the fact that the suspension is pressed, and the wheels have a large diameter, many pits, which are given to the sickle over the heart for typical vases, "West" remain unnoticed. Yes, at exceeding GOST, the body will turn, but the fact of the matter is that the car will only swing. Even creak will not be, what to talk about blows into the suspension.
A.oFFROAD. can?
The end point in the route was the bank of the Vyatka River. I sincerely wished to drive on the car under the most bridge, but I was deeply lit up in the fact that I would do it, seeing a few icy puddles on the way, in which 2 such cars fit objectively. But a test drive on the test to check the abilities of the machine and learn its moral and physical point of no return.
The puddles were easy. Breaking the crust of the ice and swelling the fragments of the bumper skirt, we ran around them, carefully tackling the bottom. There were no surprises on it. And that's it? Well, it does note. Once I was in this area, testing dicovery for strength. Why not drive Vesta Cross in the same conditions? A full drive, in some points lacks, for example, when you need to call in a very cool slide, but the clearance allows you to jump on SW Cross not only to ride on the borders, but also climb on the walls.
Take?
If you abstract from emotions and soberly look at the Lada Vesta SW and SW Cross, then objectively, she does not have competitors. At least in the body, the station wagon and with a road clearance of 203 millimeters to find a car in the class "B" and worth less than 1 million unrealistic. For this amount, a person receives a qualitatively assembled universal car, which looks stylish and goes worthy. It is possible to drive at least in Russia (the reserve of the course on one tank is about 700 kilometers), at least to use all year round in such harsh realities as Kirov. In the trunk there are many pleasant pockets, options and assistants. From the point of view of electricians, there is also everything you need: heated windshield threads, heated front armchairs, covered eco-leather, multimedia, climate installation, ESP, parking sensia and rear-view camera and everything else that is in other machines of this price segment . There is no Vesta only one - worthy competitors.
To personally identify the pros and cons in Vesta SW, you can come to the presentation of the machine that the Lada Center Kirov dealership will be held at:
About the bottom of the strong features of any Vesta is an exterior. Outward Vesta like even me. But here the SW Cross version is almost a masterpiece. Mark this moment: I will praise the VAZ, and in my words there is no sarcasm. It happens rarely. But the wagon looks like, really very worthy.
On the parking lot next to the West there was another "shed", whose brand I, unfortunately, did not even remember. But he noted that I compared a foreign car with a vaz, and I liked Vaz more. Unlike many faceless carriers potatoes, bags with flour and tomato seedlings, this wagon is quite harmonious. And even his cross-version looks like a designer in the eye kissed God. Everything is in your place, all proportions are observed for sure. Cutely, in principle, the car does not look cumbersome, but solid.
Initial cost Lada Vesta SW Cross
1.6 L (106 hp), manual transmission
It is especially worth noting that the clearance of SW Cross is pretty decent - 203 mm (, for example, it is only 190 mm), but does not seem to be a SUV or even a sneaker. The same case, when it is not scary to the generation, and UAZ does not come from the car. In general, the car came out. I looked attentively, and suddenly turned around ... and it's still good!
I don't like it, right that on the left behind the pad on the arch costs crookedly, but I hope it is a merit of not a plant, but specialists of the official dealer who put the locker. Well, it happens.
Give fire!
The SW Cross salon is also different from what was in our editorial sedan. First, he became brighter. Yes, the very light, which lacked to me in the sedan, there was a lot. This is especially noticeable on the dashboard, which bright orange backlight revived very significantly. Plastic inserts on the panel look cheaper, like a lower supermarket shelf with an instant noodle, but are well combined with inserts in the upholstered seats. Plastic inserts "under carbon" are some more diverse interior and cheerful eyes (and at the same time).
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The second, what is the difference between the SW Cross salon is a full armrest. Let it be without adjustments, but well-looking and decently looking. Here's laughter laughter, and for the owner specifically this car, a normal armrest was one of the factors that made him choose exactly the "raised" wagon, not a sedan, although for SW Cross now we must stand in line, but "ordinary" wets are available at dealers in presence in almost any performance.
It is impossible not to mention about the luggage compartment. Of course, the wagon is designed to pour packets from Auchan, skiing, suitcases, ficus in a pot, two spare wheels, a canary in a cage and a diesel generator. And then all this rumbles there in the twitter birds. But in SW Cross feared it is not worth it. If you wish, something can be put in a small compartment, fenced with a mesh, or to an organizer. If you need to transport something large, you can remove the rear shelf. In general, if it is "shed", then with a comfortable rack and cabinets.
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Well, already if you started watching the car outside, open the hood. There is nothing new here, but pay attention to such detail. We scolded our Vesta for a constantly dirty motor: everything and immediately flew under the hood. Immediately everything is clean, despite even at all predisposing to this weather. Whether the seal changed, or so it affected a little big height from the road, but so far the engine compartment looks new. And this is good.
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SW Cross and Russian Road
Let's see how this cute car goes. But first, of course, let's get driving.
Sometimes a high landing helps a lot. And someone just likes to sit higher. In this car, you can really climb on a decent height, and most importantly - do not rest in the roof of the head. Spaces in the cabin are enough, you can go on the accordion. And this is also plus.
The minus begins as soon as you start to touch. Yes, these three damned Russian letters - AMT are again to blame, it is the automated mechanical transmission, it is in the spacious - "robot". Probably, it can also be used to it. Maybe he is not so kicking. I admit even the thought of his durability. But even when I will die, I will ask only two questions. One - about the meaning of life (but it's not exactly), and the second - as you could do such a box.
I already see how the eyes of the Adepts of single-track "robots" are now, which will also be discouraged and the low cost of the technical solution in comparison with the hydromechanical machine. Self-adequation is the case, you can bring any arguments. And it is possible to get used to everything - even to a 20-year-old mortgage by 5 million rubles for odnushku per MKAD. But it just happened that every time you transplanted on Vesta from AMT after a car with a normal automatic transmission, I want to cry. Or write critical articles. So…
The first is the lack of parking mode. Now in St. Petersburg, night frosts are alternate with daylight thaws, and the snow saves something miracle after all the same fell. And I would not really want to put the car for the night on the hand, so as not to join the pads. But there is a pleasant moment: the disc brakes are behind the SW Cross. On the sedan, as everyone remembers, the drums are. So fears in the morning run around the car with the kettle is much smaller.
Second - gear shift logic. It became a little better with unexpected reactions to pressing the pedal of gas: the car rides the car predictably (but, of course, only when you press the gas pedal - if you just let go of the brake, it will stand still on the spot, well, or go ahead or back dependent from the slope of the road). But already starting from the second transfer begins some kind of confusion. What does this "robot think," when suddenly begins to select the necessary programs? Sitting the songs of Grebenshchikov? Proves the farm theorem? Is it trying to somehow treat the data of the ECU? I do not know. But some switching is very unexpected. Although soft.
Reverse situation. We are going on the third gear on small speeds, ahead is an empty section to the traffic light, the timer of which is counting the last seconds. Click on gas to have time to pass under the allowing signal. Well, where is the second gear? And no her. Motor can not even spin, the speed to dial us either does not work. Everything, brake: Green is already blinking ... It is good that there is a manual mode. You can ride with him. Most likely, you can ride and automatically. But it is necessary to get used to him, and you know, you know, I do not want.
Therefore, I repeat the famous, in general, the truth: Vesta needs to be bought on mechanics. Or to educate the driver's skills that you will not need on normal vehicles.
Here the suspension - pleased. The behavior of the car, in my opinion, is noticeably different from the sedan. In principle, there was no complaints to the sedan too: I liked how Vesta kept the road. Even at the speeds that cost from five thousand to deprivation of the right to control the vehicle.
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SW Cross has become even more "collected." After the test drive, there was a certificate: Indeed, there are technical differences in the suspensions - there are completely different springs and shock absorbers. At the same time, it is impossible to say that the car has become tough. No, she still assumes comfortable movement, it does not have to be lit in front of each "lying policeman." But the feeling of her strong licking is stronger here. Although on a cold car in motion ahead of something tumbled on the bumps. In no way?
And one more reason for joy: there are decent wiper brushes on our car! This is from the category of fiction. From the city we did not leave, and how the wipers work at speeds at a hundred kilometers per hour, I can not say. But in urban mode, they coped well with snow and water than not always to boast even more expensive brands.
Based on the foregoing, I fully agree with the fact that SW Cross on our roads looks quite harmonious. High clearance, good handling, review, landing - all this station is there. And something even better than the sedan. But still…
Fidelity Traditions
Here, it seems, everything is fine, but the sticking edge of the arches is a thing - this is a sign sign. Not a very well-worked dealer, forced to go to another dealer, is also very in our place. So the algorithm of work AMT not brought to mind is our everything, almost like Pushkin. But how beautiful it would be, if you take and abandon these traditions, isn't it?
In truth, I also wanted to add not very pleasant tactile sensations from plastic in the cabin and - which is much more important - from the steering wheel, but I will not. And the reason is understandable: Vesti materials are approximately at the level of solaris materials. They do not need to be good, they need to be not too expensive and competitive.
Well, then look at the price. The most inexpensive version with a motor is 1.6 liters (106 hp) and a five-speed manual box will cost 755,900 rubles. The most expensive, with a motor of 1.8 liters (122 hp) and AMT - at 847,900 rubles. Well, the same solaris on the "handle" with a motor of 1.6 liters starts from 754,900 rubles. And in the top set of Elegance (with automatic transmission), it is already 929,900 rubles ... and this is not a wagon, and not cross.
So I have to come again to the conclusion that you have nothing cheaper. Well, does it matter to complain about unpleasant plastic? Probably not too. If not these traditions ...
Lada Vesta or Lada Vesta SW Cross?
Test Skoda Rapid - Lada Vesta Sv passed on asphalt and off-road. Both cars with spacious trunk, good and for giving, and travel, but what is more, more comfortable and faster? These criteria were decisive.
Test Skoda Rapid - Lada Vesta SW: Where more advantages and for what money.
We took Skoda Rapid with a 1.4 liter turbo engine with a capacity of 125 hp and DSG gearbox, while Lada Vesta arrived with the most powerful 122-strong atmospheric volume of 1.8 liters and a 5-speed mechanical gearbox. We were not pleased at one time, in dynamic exercises he is not a competitor, and for this reason we put out to fight the weta of SS with mechanics.
It is believed that Rapid is better as much as more expensive. But he also has enough minuses: the road clearance on our conditions is not enough, the resource of the engine, as well as the box, is always the question; Weak stove - 1,4-liter engine does not rock it. But most importantly: the difference in price between the Czech LiftBekk and the Frenchman of Russian origin in the form of a wagon comes up to 300 thousand rubles.
Lada Vesta SV sold from 712 900 rubles. to 798 900 rubles, Skoda Rapid (1.4 TSI DSG-7/125 hp) price tag for 200 - 300 thousand rubles. Above: from 998,000 to 1,097,000 rubles. Are the advantages of rapid of the money cost, and whether to overpay, if there is no sharp need in the automatic shift shift, I hope, will help to answer our test.
Vazovtsov in the project was Vesta Liftbek, but she did not go to the series, instead they made more promising and - in support of them - "SV".
Rapid has a Sportback version that has a shorter than that of Liftback, the rear Sve, but the vertical back door. She, like Kia Rio X-line, stuck somewhere between ordinary hatchbacks like Skoda Fabia and full-fledged universals. Fight in our market with Rapid Liftbek.
Oh neither twist, and Skoda Rapid, and Vesta Sv have very spacious trunk, which means that they are healthy for giving and traveling a large company - that's another reason for comparison.
Feel the trunk
Externally, it seems that Vesta Svzt will win on trugs. We did not trust the eye and the factory characteristics (Skoda write 550 liters, in the West SV promises 480 l.), Beat the cubes of the back of competitors on the journal method.
Rapid is not an accidentally recognized leader of its class in the trunk part, they checked the manufacturer's honesty, it turned out that they promise to 90 liters more.
In Skoda Rapid, we shook the cubes for 460 liters.
In detail about the trunk and measurements, we told on the video, I only give numbers here.
The trunk of Lada West Sv is more modest than Rapid, but what is the organizer here with the possibility of separating the trunk on 2 parts, convenient compartments and backlight on both sides!
With an organizer, the volume of the trunk of Vesta is 328 liters., Without an organizer - 416 liters.
Vazovtsy slightly evasured the opening in favor of a beautiful silhouette, and for the sake of the rigidity of the body also provided inside a powerful amplifier. According to our measurements, Rapid beat West SV (without an organizer) by 44 liters.
1: 0 in favor of rapid.
Traffic light start
At the formal proximity of the power of motors, Skoda promises fundamentally different, higher than that of the Vesta SV, the level of dynamics. As such a convincing difference managed to achieve with similar dimensions and power - a mystery, but in order to exist full-time independent tests.
Test Skoda Rapid - Lada Vesta Sv. Preparing start from the place.
In addition to the Turbomotor in the asset, Skoda has a famous 7-speed robotic box with two dry clutches. How many drivers came across her at all cheap repair even with small runs, not to count. Now Skoda has expanded a box guarantee up to 4 years and 120 thousand km of run, so there is hope that on an easy car and with power in 125 hp The robot will serve, because it applies on more heavy "octaves" and "superbach", including with 150-strong motors of 1,4t and even 1.8 engines, from which 180 horses are removed.
We did not measure the time of overclocking our rivals stopwatch, but visually with a parallel start the difference was not so great. Lada Vesta Sv kept well (see video details of overclocking).
With his head, plunging in the subsoil of the onboard electronics, we could not find the function "Lounch control". And without it, electronics even with the disabled ESP does not allow the turbomotor to go out on the power mode when starting with two pedals. As a result, the first second of the start from the scene of Skoda Rapid is in thought, the actuators smoothly closame the clutch, and the motor is trying to digest the turbopause. At this time, Vesta SV, under the control of an experienced driver with a light slip breaks forward. But as soon as the Rapid's motor is spinning at least up to 1,500 rpm of the driver pushes in the chair and Skoda Rapid convincingly proves the superiority of modern technologies.
Skoda Rapid.
Shorter DSG School Rapid Transmissions are filled out, and switching and instantaneous. So already by 50 km / h rapid compensates for an insecure start, and by 100 km / h bypasses Vesta is more than on the body. With further acceleration, the speaker is preserved. Skoda literally worn forward, subjecting doubt the formal proximity of the capacity. In addition, it is impossible to forget about the availability of chip tuning of the Skodovsky motor, but then it will simply turn into a rocket. But if vsvet is 1.8 to set rapid with a 110-strong motor 1.6, then in the dynamics of him with the sword there will be parity. Although at the maximum speed of Skoda is still ahead.
2: 0 Skoda leads
In a circle
We praised Lada Vesta many times for the driver's chassis, but even it turned out to be powerless against Rapid. And it's not just the benefits of the engine and gearbox. Behind the shoulders of Skoda, the tremendous experience of the Volkswagen concern engineers who regularly please the world with their charged versions. So, even a standard rapid with a European road clearance of 136 mm, it turned out to be an easy and more interesting in the pilot, the much higher Vesta.
In the circle of Lada Vesta, I could not oppose Rapid.
On the verge of slipping rapid feels much more confident. The stabilization system helps to fill the machine in turn and does not limit the power during acceleration. Well, and of course, a more pleasant steering wheel and chain chairs. It is not by chance that the next relative Rapida - VW Polo Sedan is a slightly adjusted version of GT. Moreover, it is obtained only with stickers on the hood and larger wheels. The chassis is tuned perfectly.
3: 0 In favor of Skoda Rapid.
Side in front
Skoda Rapid is very comfortable seats, the steering wheel, everything is in place, at hand, the devices do not strain the eye. The disadvantage is a small glove box.
Lada Vesta St.
Experts and here gave the scum Skod Rapid - convenient to the driver and smells more pleasant. (For more information, see the video).
4: 0 in favor of Skoda Rapid.
Sit from behind
No matter how hard it sounds, but Vesta in this nomination turned out to be even more comfortable than Skoda. In Rapid, the passenger's head literally supports the ceiling, and sitting in the middle suffers from a massive central tunnel. In addition, heated the rear sofa in Rapid is available only in the most expensive equipment, when the price turns over a million rubles. Vesta has a similar margin of place for feet, but is slightly higher and more convenient if you sit behind threesome. By the way, in terms of noise insulation, Lada looks not bad at all. In the rear arches, Togliattinians have provided dilated fenders that protect the saddles from the Road.
In the back seat, Skoda Rapid lost one point in Lada West Sv. Read more on video.
4: 1 in favor of Skoda Rapid.
Off-road
We left in the real forest, it was beautiful.
Test Skoda Rapid - Lada Vesta Sv.
Test Skoda Rapid - Lada West St.: a little bit scary from solid soil without supporting the tractor.
This is the coolest track on which we decided to drive. The road lumen Skoda Rapid was enough here, and the frets of Vesta sv even with a margin.
Road clearance we. As always, we measure our 200-mm in height of the already corporate tire. Lada Vesta His drove it, and Skoda Rapid was in her bumper, did not even hit it and lost here.
4: 2 In favor of Lada Vesta, Sv - broke down.
Smart puddle will still work out. We did not slide, realizing that the drive to the front wheels, although armed with electronics, can not take us out.
Put competitors on slippery rollers.
In both cars, the electronics worked well, the wheel on the asphalt received the right moment of rotation and collided the car with a slippery surface. Here is a draw.
Test Skoda Rapid - Lada Vesta Sv - Total Account 5: 3.
That's it, it turned out that each score in favor of Skoda Rapid costs more than 100 thousand rubles. Expensive, for a car with a reputation of brittle engines and VW boxes. And it is good that another argument appeared for lowering the price of German Czech cars - decent competitors in the face of the Vesta family. They will still convey, where more than St.
Video Test Skoda Rapid - Lada Vesta Sveta below, specifications at the end of the article.
Lada Vesta SW / Skoda Rapid
Specifications| COMMON DATA | Lada Vesta SW. | Skoda Rapid |
|---|---|---|
| Dimensions, mm: Length / Width / Height / Base | 4424 / 1785 / 1537 / 2635 | 4483 / 1706 / 1474 / 2602 |
| pitch in front / rear | 1524 / 1524 | 1457 / 1494 |
| The volume of the trunk, l | 480 / 825 | 530 / 1470 |
| Curly / full mass, kg | 1280 - 1350 / 1730 | 1227 / 1732 |
| Overclocking time 0 - 100 km / h, with | 11,2 | 9,0 |
| Maximum speed, km / h | 180 | 208 |
| Fuel / fuel reserve, l | A92 / 55. | A95 / 55. |
| Fuel consumption: urban / country / mixed cycle, l / 100 km | 10,7 / 6,4 / 7,9 | 7,1 / 4,4 / 5,5 |
| CO2 emissions, g / km | n.D. | 125 |
| ENGINE | ||
| Location | Front cross | Front cross |
| Configuration / Number of Valves | P4 / 16. | P4 / 16. |
| Working volume, cube. cm | 1774 | 1395 |
| Power, kW / hp | 90/122 at 5900 rpm. | 92/125 at 5000 - 6000 rpm. |
| Nm Torque | 170 at 3700 rpm. | 200 at 1400 - 4000 rpm. |
| TRANSMISSION | ||
| A type | front-wheel drive | front-wheel drive |
| Transmission | M5. | A7. |
| CHASSIS | ||
| Suspension: Front / Rear | Mac-Fersson / Elastic Beam | Mac-Fersson / Elastic Beam |
| Steering | rache with electric powerful | rache with electric powerful |
| Brakes: Front / Rear | disk ventilated / disc | |
| Tire size | 205/50R17 | 195/55R15 |
At some point I even climbed, and inside everything sank to colic. Not from fear to fall into the abyss, but from the confidence that on this deep asphalt promine rapid mountain turn, we not only finishing the front wheels, but also leave both front suspension racks. And there - yes, through the stone chipper and the cubem down. Fall there is where.
Practically choosing compression, at the output of the CROSS pit jumps up.
And once again - vain! This is already after a sharp compression left the rear wheels in a slightly tack. The turning radius slightly "blossomed" - and the car went sewn, outwardly vijas ...
With updated
There is nothing worse than wearing other people's secrets. On this pre-selection universal Lada Vesta SW Cross, I traveled back in the first half of summer, and you can only share your impressions now. While you keep the tongue behind your teeth, the nuances are forgotten, the exciting feeling of the "first night right" will disappear, emotions are hooked. However, the pros in this is also there: the main thing is cemented in memory, and I will tell about it the main thing.
With a pre-production cross, I had a chance to get acquainted in the vicinity of Sochi, where Vazov testers live for months, replacing each other and rolling thousands of kilometers along the roads of different types, including mountain serpentines (they use only for certification tests). Machines - in camouflage, because before selling sales for almost half a year. Interior Non-relocated places: Some panels are made of smooth model plastic. But - and this is the main thing! - Almost complete "driving" freedom. Want - Putar on the smooth Olympic roads. But no - screw over mountain serpents.
White Cross, from which I took the keys - the dream of many. Because roomy, with impressive clearance (203 mm!), With a motor 1.8 (122 hp) and a five-speed manual transmission. Over time, they will acquire such a power unit, but so far the combination of the "older" motor and mechanics is in the wonder. And then such a cross 1.8 is the disk rear brakes. Drums are not so effective? Less reliable? I did not hear about such problems. But what disc brakes are more expensive in service, is a fact. But if the consumer wants - Voila. Marketing stroke: Now like "Koreans"!
On Cross put only 17-inch wheels with tires dimension 205/50 R17. The usual universal laid the wheels are smaller - a diameter of 15 or 16 inches, as on the sedan.
Walking around the car, noticed a lot of changes - we are already on some of them (SM, No. 7, 2017). Vesta is gradually upgraded (for example, several calibrations of power units were carried out); Some innovations will be implemented first on the universal, and then then move to the sedan.
It is clear that XV is from another price league, but from a technical point of view, this is a direct competitor: the same size, similar to the power of the motor (speech about 1.6). Is there no full drive in Vesta. But on asphalt he is not needed.
All the way I could not recover from this "Subarovsky" sensation. The cruel strength also is that it is perfectly managed - better sedan. The complete feeling that even ESP works later than on the sedan, allowing you to go a little more active and longer slide without an electronic guard intervention. Special Calibration for Cross?
No. Setting up universal for sedans and universal, including Cross, - There are only different presets depending on the power unit (motor and type of box) and the type of rear brakes (disc or drum). And the effect of the shift threshold creates tires. They are low-profile, with a more rigid sidewall, so in turning the steering wheel deflect on smaller angles - the car is more willingly changes the course and is actively screwed into the turn, rather than on higher and soft tires. And since ESP works, among other things, also on the rotation sensor, the less the angle of rotation of the wheels, the later it is excited, believing that it is still far away. Here is the threshold of the operation and moves away. And I with this soulless lady, who has some numbers in the head, fully agree. I do not know how will be in winter, but in the summer - in the buzz.
In addition, the coupling properties of these tires are slightly higher, and the steering wheel due to increased lateral forces becomes more "fun" and understandable. The main thing is not to pinch and frankly not sorting out with the speed at the entrance in turn. After all, ESP works predominantly to demolish, and when you start smoothly slipping with all four wheels, it refers to it calmer.
Active drivers will like - you can afford a little more than usual. Live machine!
By the way, about brakes. For ESP work disc brakes are preferable: they have speed above, especially on an uneven road. So replacing the rear brakes with drives in machines in top versions - not just Blazh
And how is the usual wizard West SW - on standard 16-inch wheels and with rear drum brakes? I do not know. But literally the other day, Cyril Mileshkin has already traded on serial universal - I hope he will share his impressions.
Of course, the tests ride not only on asphalt, but also on the crushed stone, on frankly broken roads and on the soil. And to assess the reliability of the suspension goes on a cobblestone. I also protrase SW Cross on a large cobblestone of the hungry mountain river. So, if not to fool, the machine allows a lot. It would seem, is about to eat a belly for stones - and there is still a stock! Of course, this is not a full-fledged crossover, but with such a suspension and with such clearance you feel very confident. To put here a self-block, and it would be quite wonderful. But this is from the discharge of offruding wishlists.
Finally, I posted a wagon on the cool asphalt inflection - so that the rear right wheel slightly broke away from the ground. The opening of the trunk doors retained its geometry, the door rises freely, the side doors also open easily. The hardness of the body is sufficient. But it is on an empty machine - and will it withstand the body with a load? Check on the serial cross.
What about the price?
Perhaps this is the main question. A few months ago, I assumed that the Vesta SW Cross in the top version (with the AMT robot) will take up to 850 thousand rubles. And at the end of the summer, Nicolas Mi spent me that the car will be. (Prices announced on September 19. The basic version of the station wagon in the Comfort configuration will cost 639,900 rubles. - Ed.)
The start date of sales is most likely November.
Most buyers of the abilities of the cross will be enough for the eyes. And the amount of its consumer qualities - capacity, passability, manageability, design, and so on, allows you to confidently say that he will work with more than any ruble embedded in it. And now it is already obvious that the demand for West SW wagon and his version of SW Cross will be higher than it was originally expected. AvtoVAZ is already reviewing the ratio of the production of sedans and universal.
And if in principle the wagon is not needed, but certainly you want something more "elevated" and a little more passable, there is an elegant solution. With black bumpers and "raised" suspension. I have already seen such cars on the conveyor - during an experienced assembly. Watching - sill. So it makes sense to wait.
Lada Vesta SW Cross - First Test Drive
