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When mentioning the robotic DSG-7 transmission with dry clutch, most immediately starts talking about her unreliability. However, as practice shows, the overwhelming part of the respondents has never come across the cars equipped with this gear shift box. To understand the reliability and main problems of the DSG-7 DQ200, we decided to talk and find out the opinions of real owners who exploit VAG cars in 2017 with DSG-7 with dry clutch.
From myself we can add that in our personal order for more than 3 years Skoda Octavia. A7 equipped with a robot and 1.8 liter motor power 180 horse power. For 3 years, the car, more precisely, the Robotic Transmission Direct-Shift Gearbox did not give any problems. Moreover, the car was operated mercilessly, practically in daily mode - "Slippers to Paul" with constant sharp accelerations from the traffic light. And only on mileage of 72,000 once we have experienced a small vibration, and this happened after we defended more than 3 hours in a traffic jam with a constant movement of gas brake.
Summing up, we can safely say that it has become much more reliable than the very first version that delivered huge owners headache, especially it was on Volkswagen Passat. B7 first years of release. From the main advantages you can note the lightning gear, excellent fuel economy indicators and certainly the dynamics. On the example of octavia 3 generations with only 180 strong engine, czech car It was capable of leaving far behind competitors with more powerful and bulk motors. Octavia A7 with a 1.8 liter engine perhaps one of the fastest cars in its class and the price segment, faster only more dear cars In sports modifications.
Reviews about DSG-7 car owners Volkswagen
In order to learn about all the advantages and minuses of the robot, we decided to chat with the owners of Volkswagen car owners and learn their opinion on reliability.
- Volkswagen Passat.
Alexander, with her opinion, shared Alexander with us for more than 4 years in possession of the Sedan Volkswagen Passat with a 1.8 liter engine.
First of all, I'll start with the fact that the car I acquired a new one and for a long time to take with a volume of 1.4 or 1.8 liters, because I often go along the track decided all the same to stop my choice on the larger motor, because I think it is a load when high speeds It will be withstanding better than a void, which is more suitable for those who exploit the car only in the city. As for the gearbox, it was originally planning to take the mechanics, because Heard about the problems of the robot, moreover, one of the acquaintances was at 48,000 km run. However, having studied the forums with the reviews of the owners concluded that over the past few years, engineers have managed to save DSG from all flaws and the box has become more reliable, as a result of which the choice fell on a version with a robot, which never regretted. For all the time of operation, the car did not deliver any problems and please me to this day.
Of the minuses, I can only notice the unpleasant sound of the metal when moving through lying police or other irregularities. It seems that in the box, the burdens of the well-established mechanism poured bolts, which when shaking are fighting each other. The trip to the dealer did not give any results, besides, judging by the forums, this is a common problem with which official dealer Nothing can do nothing and meets only excuses - they say that it does not affect the work of the transmission, and the fact that the disconnected rattle is not a malfunction, but only is a feature of DSG 7 with dry clutch.
Passat B8.
Good day to all, my name is Constantine and here is my review about box DSG.which many are so afraid. Before, I want to note that before that I had Octavia A7 which I sat down in everything, but I wanted a bigger car, first I wanted to take a new Superb, but having visited the Volkswagen dealer and rummaged at the new Passat, I decided to stop the choice on it. The funds were enough only to a version with a 1.4 liter engine, I wanted a certain more powerful version with a 180 strong motor, but paying about 1,900,000 for me it is expensive, and 150 hp For ride in the city, it is enough completely.
As for the transmission, the choice was definitely the choice was in favor of the robot, because I am not a lover of "pulling" the handle of the gearbox and harrow on the pedals, I really worst me this occupation, after work I want to get to the house with comfort. Because As I have already written above, I had experience of operating a car with an identical transmission and with reliability and disadvantages I am not familiar with the hearse, everything suits me completely, but I somehow do not want to transplanted to the standard automatic machine. After DSG work classic ACPP It seems too thoughtful and fuel consumption played a role. For properly operation DSG should not cause any complaints if you encounter this gearbox for the first time, then be sure to read the instructions for the correct operation in the book, which will avoid breakdowns and failure of mechatronics.
Volkswagen Jetta.
My name is Kirill Vasilyevich and this is my feedback about the robot DQ200. Bought a car not new, but with a mileage of 50,000 km, originally wanted to find with atmospheric engine and a classic hydrotransformer, but we did not sell such cars in the city. An announcement of the sale of a version with a turbo engine and a robot DQ200 was caught on the eyes, honestly I brought me two things - the first price of the car and its second dynamics along with low flow Fuel.
The first time the car was pleased with everything and handling and dynamics and imperceptible gear shifting, but after 6,000 km, problems began - the box began to kick when switching gears from the second to the third, and the pinks are strong enough and tangible. Moreover, a distinct clang of metal comes to ride on the uneven road. The trip to the dealer ended with the sentence of the failure of the mechatronics, the benefit of the car was still under warranty warranty. I am afraid that the breakdown may repeat, and the repair will have to do from his pocket, so I plan to put a car for sale in the near future.
Golf MK7.
i will immediately say that the purchase made rather not heads rather, and the heart, because A very long dreamed of this German hatchback. Practically with the advent of the first photographs of the seventh generation began to study all the information about him, including about the DQ200's robot, which judging by the numerous dissatisfied reviews of the owners, caused a lot of issues on reliability. By the way, the main problems came to the first year, then the company gradually corrected all the shortcomings of the design. The main problem There was a clutch overheating and out of order due to frequent switches from 1 to the second transmission and back while driving traffic. This problem was solved by reprogramming and increasing the first gear, more precisely, the transmission is switched much later, which reduces the number of transmissions to the second. I hope it is clear what I wanted to say. I approached this issue with full responsibility and read a sufficiently large number of tips on how to extend the life of the DSG DQ200, including manuals for the correct operation in which it is said that it is better for a long parking lot (in a traffic jam or on the traffic light) to nitral ( N), and with a dense motion or use sport mode (s), or manual gear mode. Yes, of course, in this sense, the classic automatic machine is much more convenient and easier, but the sensations that DIRECT SHIFT Gearbox gives, I will not miss anything, I really like to feel the constant acceleration and the lack of a sense of gear shift, as on the automatic transmission.
Now my golf raided 33,400 km and for all this time I had no problems (pah-pah-pah), but of course the mileage is completely meager, but now we can say that the DQ200 robot in 2017 has become much more reliable than the first His versions. In the future, I plan to buy a car also on the robot, but I hope that it will be either a 6-step with a wet clutch DQ250, or, with wet clutch and family of transfers, which today is considered the most reliable among robotic transmissions at VAG.
Volkswagen. Polo Sedan. GT.
Before that, I already had a polo sedan, but with an ordinary machine, I liked the car to everyone, but did not have enough speakers. Immediately after the information about the version of the version C, he thought about his purchase. The dynamics are really interesting when taking into account that the motor volume is only 1.4 liters, and the power of some 125 hp I heard that there are specialists who raise the engine power to 180 and 200 hp True, then the question arises about the reliability of the transmission and its ability to cope with the increased power.
To date, the mileage is 13,600 km. And for all this time there were no problems noted. Work gear, more precisely gear gear like much more than classic machine. So buying is happy for all 100 percent. How will the DQ200 behave in the future will show time, I hope that up to 100,000 km, no problems will happen to her.
Reviews about DSG Owners SEAT
Although this brand once again left our market, we could not not include the reviews of the owners to our list.
SEAT LEON.
The car was chosen between Skoda Octavia, Audi A3, Seat Leon and Volkswagen Golf.. I wanted fast car With bright appearance and pleasant salon. Audi dropped due to high prices, Golf due to the lack of 1.8 liter motor, strange why the entire VAG line except this hatchka is equipped with a 180 strong motor, but oh well. As a result, the choice was between Octavia and Lyon. Czech Liftbek was much practical at the expense of the trunk, and the salon is much spacious, but appearance And the design of the Seat of Mnya bribed with the result of which my choice was stopped on this brand.
Unfortunately about the DSG on the seat, I knew what I knew, and the information is not so much on the Internet, it is understandable because This brand is not particularly popular in Russia. But I realized that the box and the engine at Leon is completely similar to those that are installed on Octavia. Therefore, forums of versions of versions with 180 strong engine and transmission were thoroughly studied by me. I immediately pleased that negative feedback is extremely small and there is no such volume of complaints, as it was for the first generation of Passat B7 with DSG.
Of course, I am afraid of the breakdown of mechatronics and clutch, because The campaign is this most common problem, but while the robot seems to cope with its tasks with a bang. It is a pity, of course, that Leon is not equipped with DQ250, which is more reliable and allows you to slightly increase power without concerning the failure of the failure.
With the advent of automotive market new Transmission Volkswagen autoconecern and LUK - DSG-7 companies also have the first problems in its operation.
DSG-7 or DQ200 on the company labeling is seven-step mechanical box Transmissions equipped with an automated control unit. In the Volkswagen autoconecern itself, it is called a robotic KP. DSG-7 is the junior version of the six-speed DSG6 and their main difference lies in the fact that the clutch unit DSG-6 is located in an oil bath, which significantly reduces overheating and friction of shafts and gears. The volume of oil in DSG-6 is 4.6 liters vs. 1.9 liters in the "dry" DSG-7. DSG boxes have three shafts and they are placed inside the box so that before the third shaft, which is above the rest, the oil in the DSG-7 box can get into a meager quantity. In the conditions of the tracks of this, it would be enough, but in urban traffic jams, "dry" gears have to be sore. The top shaft bearing devoid of lubricant rust and breaks. According to service professionals, this is one of the main problems with which the repair shops are applied. volkswagen cars, Audi and Skoda equipped with DSG-7.
It is not worth drinking on the VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) that they released an absolutely unsuccessful transmission. Problems exist in all gearboxes that are present on the market, and with the number of car autocone cars, which is operated in Russia, the number of calls to the service due to their breakdown becomes logical. Nevertheless, the design of the DSG-7 remains "raw". Or remained?
Since in 2014 autohydigant declared the full modernization of DSG-7 and the correction of all existing problems. At the same time, an additional five-year-old guarantee for cars released after 2014 was removed. In any case about technical condition Updated DSG We will learn only in early 2016, when the standard two-year warranty Volkswagen in Russia runs out. At the moment, the car owners are new car Vag. Repair cars under warranty from dealers, and they are not particularly worried about the fact that not with the "wonder-robot" VW. But after the expiration of the guarantee, they may appear, because full replacement DSG-7 costs an average of 350-450 thousand rubles. Although it is worth hoping that Volkswagen this time really brought the box to "to mind." The reason for this modernization was not only the accusations of Russian car owners and the speech of the State Duma deputy on the full ban on the operation of cars equipped with DSG-7. In 2013, VAG held an unprecedented review of cars C DSG-7 worldwide. In total, it was revoked to repair and flashing software 1.6 million cars.
Classic problems DSG7
We will try to consider the most common problems "dry" DSG. What you can encounter when it is operating.
- Vibration of the car when switching gears from the first to the second and back. It is caused by the fact that the clutch discs are closed too sharply. The effect is the same that if on the usual "mechanics" dramatically release the grip when switching. An error occurs in this case in the mechanical frame and "treated" by his flashing or, as a last resort, replacement.
- Vibrations on the 2nd gear when moving at low speeds. The problem lies in the absence of the damper of the twist oscillations on the second clutch. VAG engineers considered that the damper is enough to install on the first clutch, as the utmost loaded. It has a large area of \u200b\u200bfriction, when as a second area of \u200b\u200bfriking is reduced. The design of the DQ200 0am box itself does not allow the installation of two damping of twisted oscillations - due to the geometry of the box, it is necessary to redo the entire body. LUK, responsible for creating DSG-7, has released a clutch with a changed friction material. Vibrations really decreased, but did not disappear. In VAG, the problem is trying to correct the new update of software (software), but the mechatronics will not be able to solve technical problem Designs. In any case, "Dryazg on the second" will remain at DSG-7 before the release of a new box.
- Knocks in the checkpoint when moving at low speed. The official explanation of the manufacturer lies in the fact that: "CAT contains a large number of details tightly located. Under some conditions, the vibration of unloaded gears and gear parts is possible. Structurally, the amount of oil in this CAT is relatively small, which contributes to more intensive transmission of sounds from the gearbox out. These noise affect only acoustic comfort, on the performance of the gearbox and its resource, these sounds do not affect and are not regarded as a defect. " It turns out that you cannot contact this problem with this problem, so before buying during the test trip, decide for yourself - it is satisfied with this noise or not.
- Shone at the beginning of the movement and switching into modes D, S, M. Here the set of reasons is very large. A malfunction can be entered into both the clutch block and in mechatronics and in the bunch of engine-gearbox. In any case, the machine with involuntary shocks should be diagnosed in the service.
- Outputs of the mechatronics. Here also refer to a number of problems, but it is associated, as a rule, with the version of the car. Early models suffered from breakdowns of mechatronics caused by errors in software Much more often. Now most of the problems are eliminated by the constant updating of "brains" and electronics behaves more or less friendly, but it is not insured with errors. DSG-7 Themes and differs from DSG-6, which is put on the machine of the middle class with less requirements for the engine and speed, but calculated on a comfortable quiet ride. Any racing "chips", such, for example, how fast start When clamped a brake, can roll on the DSG-6 - oil bath saves it. For DSG-7, this may cause premature repair care.
If you bring a certain result to the problems described, then all of them are in the complex box technology. Vag wanted to make the perfect gearbox for everyone and now pays for being too hurried with this, from year to year by improving the transmission.
Official answer Volkswagen or what to wait for car owners
Representatives Volkswagen Russia They did not remain away from the hype around the innovation transmission and commented on the situation with DSG-7. According to them from 2012-2013, a node was recycled double clutch, Mechatronics block and mechanical part Kp. Those problems that arose before will remain for auto owners with new DSG-7 terrible fairy tales. In terms of the large part, according to representatives of VAG in Russia, breakdowns are associated with incorrect operation Car with DQ200, including with chip-tuning control unit. Also, VAG was decided to replace oil in a box with a synthetic on mineral - at one time it was the cause for global vehicle reviews with DSG-7. Replacing the cars in Russia, but in our conditions mineral oil In transmissions, it seems not the best option.
In any case, the main thing in this statement was the conviction that the car should be serviced only in official repair services. The transmission device is too difficult to trust it with third-party masters. Solving here the most car owner. Although it is worth considering that Volkswagen sells hundreds of thousands of cars in Russia and repair shops have long been familiar with all the problems of DSG-7 and how to eliminate them. Find a car service that is ready to repair or change any detail of transmission from the gear and before mechatronics can be literally at hand. It is enough to look into the Internet. Yes, and how to repair DSG-7 with your own hands, you will also be offered not enough, but your hands should have gold. Spare parts for DSG are also not luxurious and expect the desired lining for a month is unlikely to have.
The difference between officials and third-party services is primarily in price. Screw here is great - you can replace the DSG-7 entirely for 300 thousand rubles and for 450 thousand. Most car owners solve the difference and vote.
In conclusion, it is worth saying that DSG-7 has many advantages, otherwise cars equipped with a "German robot", not sold in such quantities. At the same time, car services are clogged with cars not only with the notorious DQ200, but also by hydrotransformer machines, and variastors, and ordinary "mechanics". An ideal transmission does not exist, and you decide that you are closer to the soul. Do not change the solution only because of feedback on the Internet.
It is unlikely, of course, Oktavia owner will disassemble the turbocharged in the garage motor TSI. And correctly will do: work is not for everyone. Moreover, it is not worthwhile to share the "deceased" preselective gearbox - she, firstly, can continue to continue, and secondly, they still have to do trained people. That's just a question: these people should work in the dealer center or in a rented box? It is uniquely to respond to it, but we give some numbers.
Slightly stories
Octavia is a classic example of what is sometimes good to return to the sources. The fact is that the first Octavia appeared in 1959. True, in 1971 their production stopped, and tactful pause was dragged until 1996. But already the Skoda, truly socialist and truly budget, turned out to be a storehouse technical innovation. One independent suspension What was worth it! In addition, the car warmly met not only in their homeland, but also in other countries. And the leading role was played by the price of the car. Let a small but reliable and affordable - such was the first Skoda.
In 1996, the Czechs showed a new Skoda. Since at that time they were no longer only Czechs, but also by the Germans ( concern Volkswagen. then already owned 70% of the enterprise), then the platform new Skoda It was borrowed from Western European partners. On the same platform A4 (PQ34) were built first generation Audi A3, Volkswagen Golf 4, Volkswagen Bora, SEAT LEON and several other cars. But, as in the case of Skodami 1959-1971, the model was updated quite actively. In 2000, it was held restyling, and the 2004th generation of Octavius \u200b\u200bwas published.
This time the PQ46 platform was released in its foundation, which repeated PQ34, but was intended for larger cars. This platform is known to us mainly on glorious Passats, no less than glorious tiguans and golf plus. In addition, the modifications of this platform built Audi Q3, Skoda Yeti, Superb and some other good cars. Just Octavia this generation, the 2009 release, and will be our today's "whipping boy." But for fairness, we note that 2013 the third generation of Octavius \u200b\u200bwas published, and this time on even more "advanced", now modular platform MQB (used, for example, in the seventh generation golf and Passat B8). But today we are interested in octavia second generation with a 1.4 TSI turbocharged engine (122 hp), a seven-step preselective DSG box, which is 136 thousand kilometers.
Engine
ON MOTORS 1,4 TSI did not speak only lazy. And they say, in general,. Indeed, they have some features related to the low reliability of the details of the cylinder-piston group (first of all the rings), but on our car, the motor has held all the mileage. Of course, with too active ride, he begins to "eat" a little more oil, which, in principle, for a turbocharged motor is the norm. Therefore, we start maintenance of the motor with oil replacement.
It is impossible to save on the oil itself and the filter: the motor is quite picky about their quality. The original filter will cost quite expensive: from 700 rubles to 1,000. If you really want, you can also put analogue - its price can start rubles from 400. But if we are on self-replacement oils and so save 500-700 rubles, then you should not regret money on good filter. If straight hands itch something to close something, you can not buy a tube of oil pan, although it should be changed during each oil replacement. It is this thing about one hundred rubles. It happens that it is screwed and in the third, and for the fourth time, and it does not proceed. But it happens that it flows right away, so if they decided not to change it, then after replacing the oil, this question needs to be controlled. The filter stands on top and access to it is open.
GRM drive is carried out with a chain. Some official dealers love to say that the chain is designed for the entire service life of the engine. In part, they are right: when she finally stretches, the motor will stop serving. And yet it is better to change it, but here it was not possible to get a clear and unequivocal recommendation on the periodicity of the replacement. The most fearful is called 60 thousand kilometers, the most courageous (or desperate) is not going to change at all. Still, experts agreed on a figure of 100-120 thousand. It's hard for it hard, so it is better to go to a good service. Prices are very cool, but on average, only work will cost 12,000 rubles. Motor will not bring any special troubles until its unpredictable death. Although, if you regret it and understand that 1.4 liters, even a turbocharged, is far from five-liter V8, and it's not a lot from it. For such an amount of 122 "horses" issued by them - it's not so little, the car even with him "vegetable" will not name. If somewhere deep inside the Oktavia owner with such a motor, Schumacher will be waged, the motor can be given to the masters of chip tuning. After flashing "brains" he is able to give 152 hp How it will affect his longevity - the question is open. The second operation that can be performed by itself - replace air filter. The cover is removed after unscrewing four bolts, any car owner with two hands and scolding with this work will cope - the secrets are less there than in the detectives of Dtzova.
Transmission
"Robot" of this Octavia turned out to be quite survivable and passed to the first repair of as many as 120 thousand kilometers. For seven-step DSG, it is no longer a good result. In 2010, the concern recognized and extended a guarantee to 150 thousand kilometers. But the owner of our Skoda was no longer saved. The car was released a year earlier, and the dealer under warranty repair the checkpoint refused. Therefore, everything scary tale, told below, was funded from the car owner's pocket.
It all started in the morning. The car started fine, after a short warm-up of the selector, the selector handle was translated into position D. So the black band began in the life of the car owner with DSG. The machine from the scene did not move, signaling the box fault. The first thing began to find out from the dealer, which could happen, and most importantly - how much it can cost the restoration of the efficiency of the aggregate. Based on the fact that the problem was rooted in the impossibility of switching speeds, the official was sentenced to mechatronics. This is the most part of the checkpoint, which is engaged in the inclusion and shutdown of clips (from the "seventures" of them two, and they are dry) and directly by switching gear. Mechatronics is hydraulic system, set of mechanical load and servo drives and the electronic unitwhich based on sensor readings determines the box work algorithm. Dealers for mechatronics are asking from 70 to 110 thousand rubles, and for its replacement - from 20 to 40 thousand, which is, of course, shameless, but quite official robbery. After the search, it was possible to find a company that DSG is engaged in, and their services are true, also inhabited - they still cost significantly less. Especially since they have the opportunity not to replace the mechatronics, but also to repair it merciless expensive device. Thus, the repair bypassed "total" at 38,500 rubles. But the black strip turned out to be much wider than it could seem at first glance.
Very soon, jerks appeared, so such that it was impossible to drive on sports mode at all. In the usual mode, the box also gave pinkies to a soft place, as if hinting at the inevitable. This "inevitable" has become a clutch replacement. This time the dealer did not even come down. The clutch kit was acquired for 28 thousand, the work had to fall off 16,000. The third strike applied the box itself. Now the choice is worth either for the replacement of the PPC bearings (the kit is about 28,000, work is about 22,000), or for the replacement of the entire box. The "battle" with DSG goes for about 15th last thousand kilometers of run. All carried out work on the rates of dealers would have cost about 300 thousand rubles. I do not argue, Octavia - good carBut 300 thousand for the "box" ... I think, when choosing a used car, it makes sense to look at the mechanics or automatic transmission.
Chassis and brakes
Maintenance and repair of suspension and brakes to run in 100 thousand cost 20,000 rubles. This includes replacement brake shoes and disks, stabilizer racks and then running. Not more than three hours left for everything, but the dealer spends the same work for the working day, and it will cost it in 65,000. Let's see if it is possible to save on it at least a little.
Let's start with the pads. To replace the front, you will need a minimum skill, a hexagon of 7 mm (although there are "stars") and, of course, new blocks. Oktavia's native brakes to fall over hard, so if you do not have an insurmountable thrust to some particular manufacturer, it is quite possible to do with the original pads (2,200 rubles). If on the calipers rear kers I managed to press the pistons, then you broke them, because they can only be twisted. The excessive diligence can lead to breakdowns, so you have to find something suitable in order to be carefully screwed into place, then put the pads. In service it will cost about 700 rubles. If you already postpone the repair of DSG, then the money will be useful. Add that you can save on brake discs. The originals will cost thousands of 4, and a good analogue can be found for 3,200.
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In general, the chassis is not bad, and the only thing that can require an unscheduled replacement is the stabilizer racks. If you make a little effort, you can also change them yourself, however, without a lift will have to be tight. In case of success, it will be possible to put 1,700 rubles in your pocket, but the rack itself will cost 3,000.
Body and Salon
Well, it's time for the steering wheel. Inside the second Octavia is good to indecent: comfortable driver's seat, very good noise insulation. The car obediently follows the turns of the steering wheel, and standing in place, you can infinitely admire the German laconic, but very solid car panel. In general, for comfort when driving Octavia, you can forgive much, but not the "robot". This madman lives some kind of life, thinks for a long time, after making a decision begins to push. To be honest, his work spoils all the impression of the car. However, we have not yet examined the body.1 / 7
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Preselective gearbox with two clutches made by Volkswagen at one time produced a real extension in the automotive market. The Germans managed to create such a "robot", which in the speed of switching the steps will surpage the racers professional, and in economy will give odds any classical mechanics. DIREKT SCHALT GETRIEB - this is how the sacral abbreviation DSG is decrypted, that is, the "direct switching box".
The first 6-band version of the DSG with double clutch disks operating in the oil bath, and a slightly late 7-speed DSG version with a pair of "dry" clutches was developed. Like those used in conventional mechanics. Here is just an extreme engine torque that can digest "dry seven" with the DQ200 index, decreased to 250 nm (instead of 380), so the node is installed on less powerful versions of VW Group cars with 1.2 liter turbos , and 1.8 liters.
As you know, such a "rapid" robot is not only on prestigious volkswagen models and Audi, but the trailer gets and quite practical cars Skoda brands. Among the indisputable advantages of DSG 7 is the speed and optimal gear shift logic, the excellent dynamics of machines with preselective boxes and fuel savings even compared to the usual mechanics. In disadvantages, you can write unless tolerant jerks when changing steps caused by too sharp closure of dry clutch disks. However, it is mainly about the lower 2-3 transmissions, and then everything happens smoothly.
Dream, not a box? - No matter how! Long reliability of long-suffering DSG 7 in the world to this day, legends are found. "Dry" robotic box I became a real headache of the concern VW - the list of problems with it was thick with that "War and Peace". The two most problematic 7-speed DSG assemblies: this is a block of so-called "mechatronics" and frictions that had to be enough for the entire service life. It was less likely to have premature wear of the bearings of the shafts and the clutch turning plugs. The manufacturer tried to cure the problems by flashing the control unit, the improvement of the "mechatronics" and double clutch, and the entire mechanical part as a whole.
It's believed that dSG boxes 7 Sample 2014 are the most trouble-free units, so VW even canceled a special guarantee on a "robot", which operated in Russia for cars issued on December 31, 2013 - for such copies "Explosion" is 5 years or 150 thousand km of run. And fresh copies are content with a standard warranty in 2 years without a mileage limit.
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Despite deep upgrades DSG 7, in the address of the box anyway, the complaints sometimes come. And if everything is clear with the "warranty" cars - the officials in theory will change the defective node without any problems, then what to prepare the owner after 2 years of exploitation? In the end, no one canceled mechanical damage Boxes when the warranty is no longer covered. We decided to find out how much the DSG 7 replacement actually costs on the example of a relatively available skoda models Octavia 2015 GV With the engine of 1.8 TSI and, of course, thereby ill-fated "robot".
By the way, this time we consider the car, what is called "from the hands", since the representative office of the Skoda brand did not express a special desire to provide us with "Octavia" for traditional Friday research.
But the official dealer of the "autopraga north-west" calculation was without problems and wires. It turned out that the new 7-speed DQ200 box on our Skoda will cost an incredible 345,890 rubles. The most unexpected is that the dealer for obscure reasons suggested us a fantastically cheap option: on other channels of spare parts, we called figures in the range from 485 to 530 thousand! Yes, it is half the value of the new basic OCTAVIA!But we repel from the official numbers to which you still need to add the cost of replacing the box, its firmware and adaptation - and this is at least another 35 thousand. Total - 380 890 rubles. Not a bit much for practical Skoda. Octavia?
Spare parts
Service works
Let's look at the problem on the other side: due to the mass demand for the repair of DSG 7, there is a corresponding offer from informal workshops - many specialists are ready to repair your DQ200. Prices begin from 30 thousand rubles for repairing the "Mechatronics" block and 50 thousand for replacing clips, to ceiling 130-150 thousand rubles for repairing the "turnkey" box, including the replacement of the block, friction and the bulkhead of the entire mechanical part of the "robot".
And in order to be guaranteed to extend the service life of the preselective box, it is possible to listen to the advice of technical specialists and experienced users of DSG 7. First, it is not necessary to get involved in aggressive ride - "Robot" does not like this. Fans of "fun starts" should be completely forgotten about overclocking from a place in two pedals - i.e. Having squeezing the brake and simultaneously combining the acceler. Secondly, it is recommended that it is recommended to buy a "brake" at short stops in front of traffic lights so that the clutch is completely blocked. Finally, it is remembered to abuse slippers, for example, on slipping road Or at the moment when the car is stuck.
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